4x4 car is really must in Switzerland?

Snow tyres are a must - 4wd is optional!

4wd = at some point the car can transmit power to the road via all 4 wheels

Awd = at all times the car is transmitting power to the road via all 4 wheels.

The latter is inefficient.

Most systems (on cars) now use HALDEX or similar systems - and only transfer power to the wheels that aren't normally driven when there is slip - OR under hard acceleration.

There have only been a few times when I have really needed 4wd - but I have been glad to have it.

If you need your car every single day a 4WD is a must. If you are fine to not use the car when there is heavy snowfall (maybe 1 to 4 days a year), then not.

Once when I needed to get the kids from school, only 4WD cars could drive up the hill, all other front or rear WD got stuck. And that was on the Zurisee shore so not even in the mountains...

Oh never mind Ittigen. Is life always so serious for you?

[jedi mind trick]

You don't need a 4WD, you need a Toyota Corolla Verso at an extremely resonable price

[/jedi mind trick]

the biggest benefit with 4x4 is at the ski resorts, heavy snow and without 4x4's they will make you park at the bottom of the mountain and get the ski bus up, with 4x4 they'll let drive to the top.

I'd rather have a 4x4 and not need it, then need it and not have it

Or carry a set of chains around - with those on, I never had any trouble getting my FWD volvo V70 up (and down) anything.

Which is so much more convieniant than 4wd.

You can also pull off some brilliant slides in an icy car park with 4wd. You can't do that with FWD - unless you do it in reverse

All, I know this topic has been done to death but wanted to just get some more feedback. Would members of the forum recommend an Audi A4 Quattro (AWD) over a 2 FWD model? I'm moving to Basel and will be living out side the city but wanted to get some other opinions?

Hi,

I am in the mountains 2 days a week (minimium) in winter & I have a BMW 328 rear wheel drive with LSD, I am always overtaking Audi A4's & Toyota Quashqi's that are stuck in the snow, heavy front wheem drive cars are a waste of space IMHO.

It's really not a big deal if you have good snow tires, you will have way less problems than with 1 inch of snow in London!

Very few people who live in the mountains have 4 Wheel drive, maybe 10 %, somewhat less than London!

Well, although I said you can easily get by with a FWD and a set of chains, I've gone for an AWD for my current car, simply because I do drive a lot in the mountains. Even then, I'll carry a set of chains - they don't take up much room, quick to fit and sometimes - even with 4WD - you'll need them.

The thing to bear in mind if it's Icy & going downhill 4WD does help, you may need to hit the gas to get the wheels turning whilst sliding. I would say ABS is a must, however today it's standard with most cars.

You dont need AWD here, as long as you dont live up the mountain that is never serviced or you dont know how to drive up with a FWD.

Different story with a RWD, though they can be pretty fun as long as it is not Pikes Peak.

I have been stuck with Front wheel drive & chains as the front wheels can just spin & dig a deep hole. This happened with both a Citroen BX & Peugeot 306. I only had to put chains on twice in the last 10 years since driving BMW's with RWD & LSD way better than any FWD I ever drove,

Learn to drive then

My father drove his shitty easter-european car with a RWD 90hp up a snowy hill way back then in the 80s in Poland

You still gonna complain?

Greetings

He climbed hills, nowadays it is just boo boo, i cant drive up, where is my X5 with AWD and 300hp+.

Often if there is a trafic jam in the mountains , the car at the front holding everybody up is a UK registered Range Rover, the driver being the problem rather than the car!

LOL yeah I saw them in Poland too

I passed them with my RWD BMW 330 convertible with a comfortable speed.

They tend to stop half-mountain and search their iPhone cause the got msged.

F***in clowns

Only all wheel drive is a viable option for city inhabitant if you consider buying vehicle made by manufacturers specializing in rear wheel drives (Merc & BMW), in which case you might be dancing on the snow (trust me I know something about it ). Otherwise front wheel drive with hefty engine will get you to the mountains and thru the snow. Winter tyres is the must and no compromise there. Some places require wheel chains to be fitted before you will be allowed in the resort. Unless you plan to tow a boat and access muddy areas in the middle of nowhere which in CH is less likely. I would stick to front wheel drive but it's your call.

Yes the important thing is keep moving especially going up hill, & not slow down to 5 KMH!

ja jacek, mostly true, BUT if you can drive u also get up a hill with a RWD.

Problem is, streets are full with sissies that cant even drive FWD least a RWD up a hill.

Show me a hill in Poland I cant climb with a RWD, otherwise slap me in the face.

Matter of learning, seems swiss inhabitants tend rather to technology than driving technique.

Pedal movement combined with breaks, thats all