7 Seater SUV and/or Crossover recommendations

That's precisely why I am thinking about the car ... and a lot of other things in our lifestyle, because we can't really do that much about the kids now they're here, but other stuff, we can change.

No, there are laws about that I believe.

The way that you drive will actually have a larger impact on your carbon footprint when it comes to a car than the size of the engine...within reason of course. So use your car responsbily and choose whatever you are most comfortable with and the bunny rabbits will all be thanking you.

Since this thread has been resurrected I thought I would report back on how we are getting on with this car after a couple of months of family use.

It is fab! Practical for the family for all the reasons I picked it in the first place. It really isn't too big to park, and it isn't actually the fitting in the car park space that is a problem with these large SUV type cars but being able to open the doors and climb out of them - the rear sliding doors solve this problem for the kids at least.

It also has some weird eco thing on the engine ( can you tell I am not a car person?) but when you are stationary at lights etc the engine cuts out but then restarts as soon as you put your foot on the accelerator.

It isn't a sexy car, or one for the petrol heads or a yummy mummy car but boy does it fit the bill for a family car in CH

HTH

To answer a couple of points:

1) What is the big deal with sliding doors - are they at the front as well - if not how else does that help in a parking space?

2) I accept that massively bloated size is troublesome - but have you tried parking a modern front wheel drive car. Enormous front overhangs with campfered corners makes it a nightmare to park (unless you have PDC). Size itself isn't the problem it is visability and manouveribility

3) You want to park easily - get something with a good turning circle. Anything with front axle driveshafts won't be any good.

4) Anything that takes 7 people will need a good chunk of torque - and is unlikely to be shaped particaularly aerodynamically.

KIDS! It is a bloody nightmare trying to get kids in and out of cars in narrow spaces with a wide car, especially when they are younger and you are trying to either lift the car seat in or out or you need to lean across and strap them in. And when they are older they can climb in and out of the car themselves and swing the car door open (hopefully not into the car park next to you)

Sorry can't comment on the technical stuff as so long as when I put my foot on the gas and it moves and stops when I use the brake I don't car about the numbers.

Just thought I might share with everyone what we decided. VW Sharan . Hubbie is VERY excited - says it is great. Loaded with bells and whistles. I have yet to see the car (since I am still in the US) and they do not sell that model here. Given the feedback, we decided to forgo AWD and count on winter tires doing the trick. I am thrilled to have the sliding doors - can't stress enough how much I love them (have had them with the Toyota Sienna for almost 9 years). And for an entertainment system (since they don't have that), we are planning on getting a couple of iPads, which will be cheaper in the end anyway. And now the 2nd generation is hitting the markets, the 1st gen's should be pretty affordable and easy to come by. They even make holders for them that attach to the headrest of the seat in front of you.

We're currently looking to change our car and are interested in a Crossover model. I was keen on an XC90 (thanks for the advice dodgyken), but we've abandoned that idea based on size (they're effing huge) and price. I thought the one I saw was terrific, but the wife isn't so keen on it (fair comment as she'll be driving it the most). We've also decided that 7-seats, although nice, is not essential. I've since been looking at the following on Autoscout:

Nissan Qashqai

Chevrolet Captiva

Opel Antara

Ford Kuga

Anyone have any opinions on the relative merits of these? Or are there any similar models I haven't thought of. Basically looking for a AWD, 2.0L or more, 7 seats (if possible, but not essential). I've looked at reviews and of those above the Quashqai comes up tops, but people have said it's a little lacking on headroom (I'm over 6ft), the Captiva is a little "plastic" and is overpriced. Antara has good write-ups, and not really looked into the Kuga so much.

Adding Toyota RAV4 and Suzuki Grand Vitara to the list...

Paddy,

I've driven everything on your list and ended up going for a Hyundai Santa Fe.

The 2010/11 models have a vastly improved 2.2 diesel engine with 194PS and 436NM. They park well and are not as big as the XC90 for example. Very capable 4WD system and dealt well with snow and ice this winter. Interior is a little plasticy but well built and tough. Clever 3rd row seating and very well priced. Definitely worth trying one.

Even Honest John is impressed ...

Cheers

Jekyll

Forgot to mention, our price limit is 30k, so we're looking at 2nd hand models.

we also looked at the vitara but they only do 5 seat versions, they are a lot more agricultural then the others, but also a lot more simple (so easier to fix). A lot better built then they used to be too, a real shame they don't do a 7 seat version else we'd probably have one now

Since The Event , we no longer have the luxury of contemplating which car we should purchase. We have ended up going for the Chev Captiva (purely due to the fact that my husband gets a 16% discount off the purchase price through the company he works at). I also find it to be a bit plasticy. We have ordered a new one which will be delivered in the coming months. I'll update you all once we have some decent drive time from the thing and let you know how it gets on on the Swiss roads.

So far taken a CRV, a Qashqai and a RAV4 for a spin. RAV4 came out tops for me based on comfort and driveability, the other 2 were cramped on headroom (I'm over 6") and I absolutley hated the Qashqai diesel automatic, probably the noisiest thing I have ever driven, even though the handling was nice.

We've more or less discounted the other models based on reviews and plasticness (if such a term exists).

Now actually looking towards a new car (couldn't help ourselves) and will be looking at Hyundais on Saturday (ix35 and Santa Fe). I must say we were impressed by the features and price of the Santa Fe and, as Jekyll pointed out, it has got some great reviews. The Swiss Edition comes with all leather interior and has similar bells and whistles to the equivalent RAV4 but at a cheaper price and has a 3rd row of seat. The only downer is it could take a while once ordered, but we'll see.

Two friends of ours have the Santa Fe andswear by it. The one guy is also roughly over 6" and finds it to be a very comfy ride.

Would you mind keeping us up top date with your test drives? I will be in the market for a new car either later this year or early next & the height of my husband is one of the determining factors in what we can buy.

Will do. Depending on how the Santa Fe goes this weekend, we will probably make a decision soon. Will probably be a toss-up between that and the RAV4. However, I might take a quick peak at the Subaru Forester and Mitsubishi Outlander too.

Took the Santa Fe for a spin this weekend and I must say we were really impressed. Great driving position, nice handling, plenty of space (and headroom!) and surprisingly quiet. Steering and motor very responsive (2.4L petrol automatic). The only downer would be the delivery, 2 months or so. I'd already arranged to see another dealer in Bern, so we popped up there and had a chat, they had 2 models (Swiss Edition with leather seats and other extras) which we could have almost immediately, and he was prepared to knock a little off the price. He even drove us out to Ittigen to have a look at them at their garage there. I think well probably got for that and will try to sell our Verso privately.

Update: decision has been made. I went into the garage last week and filled out the order form for the Santa Fe, as well as the leasing request. Should hear back this week, so all I need to do is sort out the insurance and endeavour to sell our Toyota . After which, we can pick it up whenever we want

Thought I would post a short update/review of the Santa Fe, now we have had it for a few weeks. I must admit, I was a little reticent at first; a little unsure about "buying Korean", but the value for money and reviews I'd read were not to be ignored.

Overall, extremely pleased with our purchase. We chose a metallic dark grey, which looks very nice in the sun, especially if kept clean . Spacious inside, a very important point for me, and huge storage space. Swiss Edition comes with very nice leather seats and rear parking sensor. Dash and steering wheel controls are easily accessible and the displays are very clear. There is also a nice iGadget interface, also controllable from the steering wheel, if you have the correct cable.

Very comfortable driving position with excellent visibility all round. Responsive handling and a very quiet, smooth ride, but I'm yet to try out the 4WD drive lock, we simply haven't needed it so far. Surprisingly easy to park, compared with the Verso, it has a far tighter steering lock, making it easier to swing into our typically tight Swiss parking space. The only thing I have a small gripe with is the pick-up on the M-way; it does seem a little sluggish compared with the Verso, but I am comparing a heavy 2.4L Automatic with a far lighter 1.8L injection manual, so that can probably be expected until I get a feel for the responsiveness of the engine.

I get a shade over 500km on a tank of petrol on a mixed Urban/M-way cycle. This is about the same as the Verso, but obviously the Santa Fe has a larger tank (65L v 55L, IIRC), so not quite as economical, but not enough to break the bank.

Fully comp insurance is a shade over 1100.- a year with Smile.direct (and is 400.- cheaper than the same deal with our previous insurer, Nationale Suisse).

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