You don't half talk some rubbish W. Turkey is as Asian as Chiang Mai in springtime.
I was thinking about an equally balanced response but then I thought: This could potentially derail the thread and will easily trigger five consecutive replies from Mr. W. with all sorts of facts on Turkey I never wanted to know.
I do not have popcorn available, but some beer will do...
But the major metropolis of the country is in Europe. AND Asia anyway begins east of the Shatt el Arab. And south of the Amur
Nah, Asia begins at the Bosphorus.
Turkish food, therefore, is Asian.
Don't really mind as long as it tastes good.
I would love to find somewhere that does Hunan Chinese food...mmm. Anyone know of such a place in Basel by any chance??
Nope, it's split over the Bosphorus. East of the Bosphorus is called Asia by wikipedia (and everyone else I've heard or read).
Istanbul is WEST of the Bosporus
and the countries inside THIS
area do not see themselves as "Asian" ..... neither do Turkey and Israel
No, it straddles the Bosphorus.
Negative. Istanbul is in Europe. You here refer to Üsküdar
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and here you see Europe according to the Council of Europe
http://www.coe.int/AboutCoe/media/in...ions/Carte.pdf
Lucky the countries in North Africa don't see themselves as being in Asia...or else they'd be morons really. Indeed how the poplulation of Saudi see themselves isn't usually all that close to reality. Perhaps if some...oh what do they call them...books were distributed in the region, children would grow up with some sense of the outside world. Israel sees itself as almost European, something to do with their pre-20th century roots perhaps.
Üsküdar is just one of the belediye (from the Arabic baladi or country, in this case suburb) of Istanbul and has been an integral part of metropolitan Istanbul since 1984.
Sure, but ALL of Turkey according to the Council of Europe / Europarat is Europe and that includes Üsküdar
http://www.coe.int/aboutCoe/index.as...ys1europe&l=de
Let's be realistic, wherever Turkey is, I don't really expect to get dolmades and doner in an Asian style restaurant.
And there above, subtly inserted by me, is my problem with Asian restaurants. They're Asian style. It'll be like seeing "European food!" outside a cafe in Shanghai and seeing that they sell ghoulash, steak & kidney pudding, snails and paella.
Now, maybe the chef is from one of the Asian countries and is an expert at, say, northern Thai and Yunnan food, but if the menu also has "sushi", "pho" and "green curry" on it I'm likely to stay clear. Focus.
The trouble is, many of us are well travelled (hell, we've mostly travelled here in the first place) so providing us "Asian" food is going to be different to keeping the Swiss happy. And they, more than us, are content to pay 40Fr for a dish of something random with rice. If all you want is profit then, unfortunately, there won't be any influx of decent Asian cuisine any time soon.
Which is a pity. But maybe just for me and a few others who really love many types of Asian food.
Ah, the Europarat. Well, I guess that is settled then. If a bunch of third class bureaucrats think Turkey is Europe, it must well be. The council of Europe has btw nothing to do with the EU and does... well, not quite sure. They are pretty much redundant with EU organs by now and have no power at all. But in politics, people simply do not get fired I guess.
The question is: How do the people with the money and the power, a.k.a. EU or European parliament, European commission see the question? I am pretty sure that most will never agree to Turkey being part of Europe.
The Council of Europe is like the Bible, it exists and is useful because it says it should exist and thinks itself useful.
All I said was I wanted a kebab and a bottle of beer...
What can be more important that defending the rights of an individual to said kebab and beer?
There should be a constitutional right for it.
There should be a consitutional right for a Niederdorf Kebab shop owner to market himself as an Asian bistro.
Certainly Sir. Kebab with cashew nuts and fried rice, with Jasmine beer.