Best country to live: Switzerland vs USA vs (insert other here) ???

Indeed, I never lived there but I have been many times. I visited Munich, Berlin, Köln, Dusseldorf, Dresden, Hamburg, etc.,etc.,etc. I just don't think German people, food, etc., are the most exciting things in the world. They have good politicians though.

One lesson learned in life is that being a tourist is very different from living in a place...

Have you ever heard about the NASA, DARPA, Boston unis, etc.

You seem to have made up your mind, so why ask?

Yep. HTH. Good Will Hunting, right?

Science and technology are not exclusively American domains as you appear to imply. We even do maths and stuff in little old UK. Not me obviously... I have someone to do numbers for me...

No, their politicians are as crap as their food.

Hell, they even had to import Hitler!

Tom

Yes, they are all crap.

Tom

New England in general may have excellent health care. Whether one can access and afford that health care is entirely different.

I'm not an American but just my thoughts having grown up in Canada. If you have ambitions to strike it rich the USA is the best place in the world to be. Americans have a positive, optimistic "can-do" attitude that doesn't really exist in much of Europe. Also, it's not seen as crass or vulgar to discuss money or have ambitions to make a lot of money. It's no surprise that Amazon, Facebook, Microsoft, Google, Netflix, Apple and a whole host of other tech companies were founded in America....we have SAP in Germany I guess....

I know a lot of people will laugh but there is still the concept of the "American Dream" where you can arrive with nothing and, if you have a great idea and access to capital, can strike it big. People still dream about renting a Mustang and driving down the 101 through California, no one dreams (yet) of renting a Geely and driving to Guangdong province.

Now, if you're poor or middle class, have no ambitions to get rich and want to work 9-5 and retire at 65, Europe is the place to be.

I guess in this question you are implying that by living in Switzerland you mean a place in Switzerland that speak a language that you already manage (or are willing/capable of manage it)?

To me, a pretty huge disadvantage of living in Switzerland (in the pseudo-german speaking area) is the language barrier. A barrier that many people have managed to successfully solve nonetheless and that, however, for kids turns out to be a huge advantage to grow up in a multilingual environment. Still, depending on the personal situation, the language is a steep barrier to deal with on a daily basis (to me :P).

Then there will be a huge discussion on pros/cons that many other experts in this forum will deal with.

I just wanted to mention the language issue that I'm surprised that has not been highlighted.

Sorry for being so blunt, but either you're trolling us with these facetious comments, or you're being incredibly naive and opinionated. Where do you get things like "German people aren't exciting" ? There are >80 Million people living in Germany. Or "German food isn't exciting" ?

I know most people don't care about it, but take the groans you've received in your last 5 posts as a sign of how most of us are reading your messages and the reaction they create.

Unless you're 14 years old, in which case I take it all back and apologize.

OP wrote New England - that might be funny enough in itself (I don't know, I don't know their health system).

By using NE you took it one step up: NE is Niger.

I still wonder why Germany would be a good place for poor people.

Having been there many times, I'll just have to concede his point here.

Tom

Friday came early this week.

Hilarious OP posts

Shame then that the dream is very much not reality. The US has one of the worst social mobility records in the west (only the UK and Italy are as bad). And it's getting even worse.

Basically, if you're poor in the US you're much more likely to stay that way.

Taking ultimate outcome (i.e. life expectancy) as a decently objective measure of healthcare, Switzerland is top 3 in the world (depending on which list you look at), the US is down in the 30s. US life expectancy is some 4 years shorter than Switzerland.

I think you summarized it perfectly.

Because of my experience with them, working and living (I had a German roommate, great guy by the way).

My comments were not meant to be derogatory, sorry if it hurt feelings.

I had to groan on your post because it's definitely not true. Social ascensionis way more difficult in Europe in general. Perhaps Switzerland is different.

I didn't say US, I said New England.