BMW vs Audi vs ?

I'll expand a little;

seemingly in Zurich, everyone has an Audi. Usually an A6 Avant, I find. Too common a mark.

BMWs are the same - they're drivers' cars alright but with a 6-cylinder and options. Otherwise you'll be buying after-market satnav, for instance.

Consider VW Seat and Skoda - the poor boys of the VAG. As well, as I mentioned, the Jag X-type - which is of course a Ford Mondeo underneath but is well-received.

Saab 93 is another option. More toys and more power for your money.

And I'm sure it doesn't kill you tax-wise like it might elsewhere but check into that side too - you'll be taxed on the amount as income, I believe. The car is a perk, not something essential for you to carry out your day-to-day duties, I'm guessing.

Finally, if you feel like it, you can top-up your company contribution and get something really quite splendid. For instance, if your company does 9000 pa. for a car lease, you can chip in about 6000 pa. to be another Cayenne-clone.

Double-finally, if you're looking for an insurance bloke who speaks English and is prepared to "work" the system, PM me

News just in...

BMWs : for drivers from eastern europe (some brand all of them as "refugees" here in CH): avoid at all costs, esp if it is painted purple or yellow.

Audis : all swiss people have them (mostly working class)

Subarus : All farmers have this: 4X4

Toyotas : All senior swiss people under pension payments have this: reliable, don't leave home without it.

Suzukis : They make cars?

Mercedes : If black, you are likely to be stoppped and the second policeman has his hand on his pistol, safety off.

Jaguars : Usually old men who have too much money to spend and like the fake wooden finishings

Ford : Reliable and value for money (usually a first car for foreigners)

Hyundai : Tennis lovers only, or people who cannot afford the "real" thing

Volvo : Only for those with big dogs, 5 children and easily back into the neighbour's car

Skoda : BMW wannabes

VW : Unless you are German

Renault : classy designs, but ....big but.

Pls take these labels, as a soft joke....feel free to add more...

If you want a car, get a Saab. If you want a 4x4, get a Landrover. If you want to spend time finding your car in the car-park, get an Audi.

dave

Save your money and buy a Opel.

I know one or two disappointed Saab owners.

But hey, badge is everything. Depends on your manhood

My last one was pre General Motors, and was quirky, but built like a tank. I've gone the 4x4 route since then, as it obviously wasn't close enough to "tank"

dave

It's true that the Saabs are based on the GM common platform but the step from 900NG to 93/95 models was a very good one.

I've had a NG900 turbo ragtop that was chip-tuned - excellent - and a 95 Aero Sportcombi - also excellent.

I also have a Discovery3 which if you search is blighted with problems, if you believe what you read on the internet. In 11'000km and three months, I've had none.

Tsss, just to embark on buying my first BMW and was thinking rear wheel drive....

So, I'll be driving around in an overpriced piece of gangsta bling that looses traction in the snow :-)

Hmm.....I like Audi's better but then there's no accounting for taste. BTW, why do Audis and BMWs etc depreciate so much in just 2-3 years time in Switzerland? I'm shocked they can be up to 40% off the new price after just a couple years.

that's good. An Opel would be worth about 30% of list after 3 years

Here's an Opel Astra that's less than 50% off after just over 3 years! List new: 43,000chf, now: 20,000chf http://www.autoscout24.ch/AS24Web/De...8&page=5&row=8

Since we're on the subject of cars.....

What does everyone say about Mercedes A-Klasse for a woman driver?

Any experience?

of women drivers or A-class?

my mother-in-law qualifies on both - it's a nice car especially the facelifted new version.

Ha!

I just test drove the cheapest model A 150 but it's completely under-powered.

Was wondering if the A 170 would be good enough for a 'shopping' car.

..and Petrol or Diesel?

Topgear doesn't think too highly of: http://www.topgear.com/content/carsu...cedes/a-class/

"It's easy to forget that the original A-Class was one of the cleverest, most rule-changing and imaginative cars of our lifetime.

Trouble is, it was about 5% too clever. All those Mercedes technocrats poured their last synapse of brainpower into making a safe and roomy car as small as possible.

And they succeeded so well it actually ended up too small. The wheels weren't far enough apart. Hence its infamous toppling over in the elk test.

So it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what was needed in this new one: make it a bit bigger so it's more apt to stay on the level.

The whole body is wider now and significantly roomier width-ways. There's an entirely new suspension at the back as well, and now you can really feel that the chassis has been allowed to do its job. Just as well, as the engines are now more powerful, too.

Design, style and quality have had a buffing-up too. There's a sportier-looking three-door as well. Inside, there's been a serious makeover. The result is a model of clarity, restrained modern design and extremely high quality.

As is Mercedes tradition, there's a wide range of diesel and petrol engines from 1.5 to two-litres and 82 to 140bhp.

In 2006 there'll even be a 193bhp turbo (ulp!)."

I think the enemy has the 170 or 200 petrol. I'd go for diesel.

do you do long motorway trips, JAPP?

Meanwhile, I'm driving one of these

http://www.topgear.com/content/carsu...mini/mini-one/

and it's a gas gas gas; motorways, mountains and city car, all in ONE (CooperS)

(Before you accuse me of Manbag issues, it's not mine, just on loan, hee hee... )

actually Maxie, one of the slowest depreciating cars on the road right now. You might chortle

But the ragtop is seriously ugly.

Actually you'll be stuck in a hedge in an overpriced piece of gangsta bling.

I sold my 3 series and bought an A4 and have rejoiced in its glory every time i'm on snow or ice.

you don't have an A4 or A6 Avant in a dark colour too, do you?

Lob, I don't do more than Luzern to Zurich from time to time, Luzern to Zug a couple of days a week for work, Luzern the other days & the occasional weekend down to Wallis. That's it really.