Buy back missed year on UK National Insurance, Class 2 or Class 3?

No, I heard the April date as well, which is why I want to get answers. My understanding is that you can buy back so many years anyway, but because of a system change some years ago, we got until April 2023 if we wanted to buy back more years than the standard.

It looks like, in the future, you will be limited to buying back 5 years of contributions.

But does the process you are following resemble the one I have described. For example, have you submitted a form CF83 or how did you initiate the whole thing ?

Yes, I submitted "Application to pay National Insurance contributions abroad" form at the beginning of August. The result should be a decision on whether I can pay class 2.

It looks like it is the one I referred to (CF83) but with a typo (which I have now corrected): https://assets.publishing.service.go...02905/CF83.pdf

As I said, it took about 3 months from me receiving a reaction to that form until the whole process was completed. Maybe try phoning again and ask if they need any further information and if they have a target date for completion of the process.

After 4 phone calls and waiting 5 months, I finally got the agreement on how many years I can pay and the cost for each year. The problem now is they do not say on this letter how much extra pension I would get for each one I pay. They say contact the Future Pension Centre for that information, but it is impossible now to get through to them on the phone.

Does anyone know, if it says I have already got 24 qualifying years and I need 30 for a full State pension. Is there any point in paying for more than 6 more years (I could pay up to 16 more years)?

They put it up to 35 years a while back...

https://www.gov.uk/new-state-pension...ifying%20years .

I was alerted to this buyback (now to the 2006 year) back in February 2023.

I worked (was employed) in the UK for much of the 1990 and hence qualify.

I set up a UK Gov ID login (was able to use my passport etc) and was then able to see all my NI coutributions history online and it showed all the years where a buy back was possible (back to 2006).

I also called the helpline to ensure my appliction had been received (which it was). The NI Agent was very helpful. He pointed out that I had aplied to make class 3 contribution (buyback) but indicated that I should have applied under class 2 which was significantly cheaper. He sugegsted I re-submit my form before the closing date which I did.

He also told me that at that time (march 2023) there was a 23 week backlog so I would not be hearing anything until closer to the end of the year.

I understand that once processed, I will get a payment code and bank details to make the NI buyback payment so I'll be able to buy back since 2006 which will will be approx 15-16 years. When recived, the online portal will update my total number of years. (max is 35)

Very glad I called them.

Update as at Feb 2024

I received a letter from HRMC and they accepted my application to pay Class 2 contributions. (well partially)

The letter detailed the amount I would need to pay to buy-back each of the years between 2006/07 and 2022/23. In the main this was approx. GBP 163 per annum.

However, there were some years where in respect of a handful of weeks, the class 3 rate was applied (e.g. 44 weeks @ 3.15 and 8 weeks @ 15.85). These were the years where I was not technically in employment (as I was preparing to move to CH). So, I believe many people will end up paying a mixture of class 2 and class 3 depending on their employment history.

I have read that one would normally make a payment using an 18 digit code that HRMC would send. I did not received such a code but a link in the letter provided instructions for making payments from overseas. You would send payment to a certain HRMC IBAN and include your NI Number and your name in the reference line.

I have made a single payment for GBP 163.80 and will check with them in a few weeks time (on the Login portal) to see what has happened.

I was able to buy back 12 years of Class 2 payments (around £150-£160 per year) and have paid 3 more years since then. It doubled my pension benefits which I will receive from October this year.

The payment reference is made up from your UK NI number + some other 2 digit code + your surname but the document explains all this.

I've been online to check my details today, I think the huge amount they quoted me years ago was a mistake, it was something ridiculous like 8.5k.

I have 31 years fully paid NI and the system tells me I'd need to pay another 5 years to get a full state pension. I paid up to 2019 which was when we closed our business back in the UK so I haven't paid anything into the UK system since then.

I found it quite confusing as some of the info seemed to contradict other info given and I was left with no idea what to do.

For the record I also have 2 pension forecast letters from HMRC, one says I was contracted out of SERPS and the other says I wasn't, and the pension forecasts on them are 2 different amounts which doesn't help!

Yes, Your NI Number then "IC" and then your Surname and initial

You can do that now? Last time I tried I needed a UK address.

You just need a government gateway ID. I got mine in 2020/2021 without a U.K. address.

There may be a better guide by now. This is on: https://community.hmrc.gov.uk/custom...e-00155d9c9e63 page 3:

Posted about a year ago by Sarah

Hi all, I was having this problem too and a friend told me if you opt to scan your UK passport instead of entering info manually (where it ends up asking for a UK postcode that we don't have) then it works. And it did! You have to download a gov verify app to scan your passport and your face and then you are in. We both did it this evening to look at pension forecasts.

I just hope this post is here when I finally get around to doing something about it...

You've not got long. From Thursday, February 29th. the forum is no more.

These people have no sense of timing. April 1st would have really caused doubt and uncertainty!