Buying kitchen to the new apartment

Did anyone go through ordering furniture for their homes? The company recommended by the developer only offers typical solutions which does not fully suit my needs - and this already costs a fortune.

Did anyone experience working with artisans making taylor-made furniture? Is this more or less expensive than through kitchen companies?

For me it is nonsense to loose the space in the kitchen corners because there are no typical solutions for that.

Hi there

You might want to explore buying a kitchen from Germany.

Try out Küchen Dick.

Ask for Nico Bauer.

Very good quality, attractive prices and amazing service.

Good Luck!

I don't know.

I will only exchange cook-top and oven. The rest is too good to throw out.

My guess is you can easily spend 50k on a new custom-made kitchen, which added to the decision to let things be for the while.

How much do you want to spend?

Find a local - what's the French word for "Küchenbauer" - and visit the show-room, ask for a ballpark number.

If the bank puts it on the mortgage, you're good (provided you can still finance it), if not then you'll have to pony-up the cash....

Avoid Fust, particularly the shop in Etoy.

Hi,

it depends.

Your builder may have gotten a miltiple-buy discount from the kitchen provider if they are building multiple units in your building. Or... the prices may have been marked up.

More importantly, please read your contract:

- what was the budget for the kitchen? Look around and see if others are cheaper

- will you get the full budget back? Some contracts say you only get only 80% back

- are you allowed to install the kitchen before you get the keys to the apartment? If you are, will you have to pay for damages yourself if the kitchen guys scratch your flooring, for example?

- are the builders willing to work with your kitchen guys to determine where the plumbing and kitchen electrics (plugs and sockets) will go? Or do you have to sort these out yourself?

We got a great offer from Germany, but those stuff above in the end made us decided that it was not worth the hassle, and could in the end cost us more...

He'll get 80% back at most .

Yes, there are many companies who will custom make your kitchen cabinetry. I don't know the French, but over on t' German speaking side, I'd look for a Schreinerei (carpentry firm) specializing in Küchenbau or Küchenmöbel. (Kitchen building or kitchen cabinetry.)

I have a wall that is not a right angle, making standard cabinetry difficult. I spoke with a couple such firms, and sure, each could create the kitchen of my dreams, sky's the limit. But be aware that the sky's the limit for the budget as well.

But then, if the developer is already charging you a fortune for a kitchen that doesn't float your boat... well, 'a fortune plus' might be a better deal.

If you have a rough idea sketched out as to what you might want, those discussions will be more efficient.

Good luck!

IKEA has an online tool allowing you to create your perfect kitchen.

We purchased an IKEA kitchen last year from their Etoy shop. It was a nightmare.. Just read all the online reviews.

We choose only fittings and cabinets that were in stock in Switzerland. Just for the planning we had to pass three times (they also lost our design twice, so they had to plan it again and then again), because speaking with their customer service by phone is literally impossible; we've been hanged up on, yelled at and been told off. I actually think their call centre is not located in Switzerland.

For the delivery, everything went wrong; we've been delivered someone else's kitchen, then after, many missing parts (mind you, the delivery comes in close to 80 different packs), each time meant a trip to Etoy again. Still now six months after we still have some missing panels..

If you are at the planning stage now, can't you choose your exact requirements and visit the showrooms of the kitchen supplier?

We have done this twice - including moving a wall to make the kitchen bigger...

We went through the same situation (& nightmare) last year. Finally, we ditched the classical providers, and went for a local carpenter / kitchen-maker.

Very fine job, - on time, fully customized, almost perfect, super high quality, and about 40% cheaper than the Fusst offer, but you NEED to speak the local language (be it German, or French). And, if possible, bring a local with you - then they will respect you. Sad, but true.

And, of course, not everything is easy peasy - if you have a preference, you'll have to put your foot down ;-)

Our kitchen-cabinet maker is a little bit far away from you (Argau), but surely there are closer ones

Id strongly suggest visiting a kitchen showroom and talking with a local schreiner (cabinet maker) that specializes in kitchens. Unless you have been thoroughly researching and studying suppliers in depth (which would likely take hundreds of hours) and have kept up with the renovation industry, there are numerous product options you will simply be unable to find out about on your own. Also, there are so many variables that you really do need a custom fit and design to maximise use of the space and to also match your personal cooking and household needs.

Do you want a six burner gas range or extra wide refrigerator. How is the power situation. Do you want a pull out spice rack near the cook top. Two bowl sink. Faucet style. Will you need to do tile work or backsplash. Do you know what options exist?

In my experience the builder packages are adequate but cannot compare to something that has been built for you by a professional

Thank you for sharing experiences.

In my home country I have designed and ordered numerous kitchens and other furniture's for myself and friends - that is my hobby ) So I am quite technically aware of what I want. I have prepared a technical sketch for the company as I used to do back there - and with a pity found out how different the approach is here.

Frankly, I ran out of time to request the changes - even though construction is scheduled to be finished in 2 years, the deadline for changes is right now. So probably I have to accept whatever us offered by the subcontractor?

You can always say you don't want to have the kitchen and have it put it by a local craftsman after everything else is done - after all, their main source of income is usually renovations and make-overs, where an existing kitchen is replaced.

They are usually also very professional and leave the place absolute spotless.

(A lot of them you can lend them your keys and go on vacation and when you return, everything is done).