Wow! Runningdeer, this is a fantastic post. Thanks so much!
I arrive in Geneva in June and I have a little girl - she is 2 now. I am quite worried about schooling stuff. Firt of all, I am really worried of not finding a place for her to stay during the day - as I will have to work. I read that some people had to enrol their babies when they were pregnant!! :-)
Also, I would dream to find a place where my little 'me' can stay without being asked too much... I mean, I would like a place where she can play and thats it... 2 years old, so young to have a big responsability of exercises, etc... dont want it. I am praying that I can find a safe and nice place for her...
Hug hug people... cross tour fingers!!! lol
Take care,
Daniel
This way they pick up the language easily. I know there are quite a few in the Zurich area and I can highly recommend Little Learners Bilingual Daycare in Zurich Witikon ( www.littlelearners.ch ). My daughter goes twice a week and loves it.
my little girl 2 1/2 old is having problem for the speaking (well dont speak only like 5 words) , will start soon with Sprach therapie, but i feel so bad because i can found any kinderkrippe.
any advice? i live in Uster.
thanks
If your daughter is slow to speak, I'm not sure that putting her into a group where she is likely to be confronted with different languages and accents in addition to the ones she already has to contend with is really a solution - or even a step towards one. You don't tell us whether the people she spends her time with all speak the same language. If not, it is no surprise that she is 'behind' others of her age. However, it is never a bad idea to see if there is an underlying reason (poor hearing for example).
Are you really looking for a Krippe, or would a play group (Spielgruppe) be an alternative? If you Google 'Spielgruppe Uster' there are several possibilities. Perhaps something will help you further there.
At the moment the only contact she have is screaming with little girls in the park sometimes.
I dont work , and i guess will be like that for a while (pregnant again :-) 2 months)
Well many people say for my little girl will be more dificult start to speak, (i speak spanish with her, husband speak german, and she look tv in english, and husband and I speak english together) and other like the specialist say no, is not because of the 3 languages, she say in the end she need therapie, but also need more contact with other childrens.
I m desesperated to put her in a kinderkrippe, because i think that really will help her, she is really close to me, and i think is time for her be a little more independent (i mean not cry if she dont see me in 5 minutes)
I know it's hard to get out there and find things when you speak a foreign language, and you have a very demanding toddler to look after...but it will be worth the effort...
If there is a speech delay for your child, the first thing is to check the hearing, and do a medical history, and then, expose your child to as much good-quality example as possible. The TV is not enough for language - in fact, TV time takes away from 'real' communication time...
Instead, go out each day, find things to do - play at the park, talk to people at the shop, meet all your local shopkeepers...say "Hi' and I'm sure you will find some who speak english, or will take time to talk to your child in the local language...
BTW, my training (child development) would say that your assessment from the hospital is correct. Having more than 1 language does not cause a delay....at the most 1 month.... so if your child needs speech therapy, it will be because of hearing problems, or processing problems with the brain or mouth, or because your child is choosing not to speak...not because it's German/Spanish/English....
If your child has a speech delay, I would not recommend a large, noisy Krippe/Kita. They need somewhere that they get clearly understood, good quality language examples, and enough time to hear and understand what is going on - if they have any sort of hearing problem, then being in a busy and noisy environment won't help - but for the social aspect (and it sounds like you suspect there is more than just language issues) - then a good quality preschool would be good.
What preschools have you tried ? Are you prepared to travel further than Uster ? Places you could ask would be your local doctor, the local library (and they usually have fun activities planned for kids), the community centre (GemeinschaftZentrum), even your local pharmacy, will know what is available in the local area - playgroups, music, art, craft, story time...
Good Luck!
I know this message has been posted over a year ago ... but , as my son is in exactly the same position as your daughter was ...... I wanted to know how things are a year later . Has your daughter managed through the 1rst year of Kindergarten ?
My son is 4 1/2 . Entered K1 not speaking a word of German ....all the other kids speak a bit of German . He is getting tutored at school ... but , only 1 1/2 months into the year and already both his German teacher and Kinder teacher are calling us for an assessment because they feel he is not understanding what is being taught .
Can someone explain to me , how my son is supposed to understand what is going on when he is learning German but his Kinder teacher is speaking to him in Swiss German ????
Help ! The kids wont play with him because they dont understand him and I can't seem to find anyone to come over and play . I know I'm not alone ... but need to find a solution !
I had non Swiss German speaking children and one deaf child in a group I taught and to begin with they would say that they didn't understand me. I used to ask them what they thought I had probably said when every other child went and picked up a ball. This took the pressure off 'understanding each word' and made them aware of what was going on around them. Things improved by leaps and bounds then.
Hope you find a good solution.
We are now gonna face another relocation, in the Geneva/Lausanne area. Is German a compulsory language in nursery/pre-school? How can I start to look for places when I do not even know where we are gonna stay exactly?
thank you, I've found the entire discussion very interesting and helpful:-)
If you are moving to Geneva then your child will not have to learn German but French because Geneva is in the French speaking part of Switzerland. German will then come at school but that will be in a few years time so nothing to worry about that right now.
If I were you I would be looking for a bilingual day care / pre-school where he can start with English. That makes it easier for him as everything will be new for him already (so I wouldn't throw in a new language on top of that). But if he speaks Italian he will pick up French fast as the roots of the languages are the same. Don't worry, he will learn fast, they always do! Look for a bilingual pre-school in the internet and try to fly over from London to visit so that you can get a feel of the place and the location. I believe that it's important that they can go outside so check if they have a playground or go to a public playground regularly.
Good luck with the move!
We are relocating from Chicago to Zurich this year. My husband is moving this weekend, our 9-year old daughter and I to follow in the summer. Shortly my husband will be starting to look at and evaluate schools in Zurich, with a preference for bi-lingual, since our daughter has good basic German and ultimately she should be prepared for the state schools. We will likely stay at least five years. My list so far is as follows: Terra Nova Swiss International School Lakeside School (probably no room here in 4th grade) TAZ Horgen dInsele Montessori Lernstudio - not a bilingual school, but very small class size might be a good compromise for first year(s) in Zurich Pädagogische Tagesschule Seldwyla www.houseofkids.ch Because private school is part of the relocation package, we believe taking advantage of this for the first year(s) is a good idea. On the other had I read on one of the threads that public schools do a good job integrating kids. So I wouldn’t rule them out completely. One other thing to consider is that since Kindergarten she has been very happy in a Montessori school in Chicago, so going to a state school and only speaking German would be a big (but not insurmountable) leap.
Thanks in advance!
Anne
If your daughter is already in a Montessori 6-12 environment, then Montessori bilingual should be a strong option, and as far as I know there are only two with established 6-12 programmes in Zurich that could take a year 4...
www.dinsle.ch (you have that one on your list)
and
Rietberg Montessori.
The main decision will be a geographical one. D'Insle is on the seefeld side of the lake, and Rietberg is on the Enge/Wollishofen side.
Always, my recommendation will be to actually visit the school and see how you feel about them, but both Rietberg and d'Insle have a good reputation for being well-established, well-staffed and solid Montessori educational programmes...
If you want more info about Montessori in general / in Zurich, you are welcome to send me a PM and we can talk further. I have three children all in Montessori...