depression in Swiss

Yes but Geneva for example has 40 hrs week. I do not know about the rest of CH so left it out.

3 hrs/week is not massive but it does represent 1 day/month more and 2 weeks more a year (approximate figures)

Cheers,

K

Actually, depression is not the state of giving up hope. That is being depressed or down. Depression is a long term state of lack of feeling. A disconnect, you feel nether happy or sad, just.... nothing. Mostly it is an imbalance that can be caused by genetic factors or environmental factors or a combination of both, which effects lots of things like hormone expression. Which is why it is treated with medication, whilst the underlying environmental cause is treated holistically (therapy etc).

Anxiety and stress can lead to anxiety or stress disorders (such as depression or panic attacks) because of an inability to regulate hormones again. (Panic attacks are caused by too much adrenaline for example). Again treated with a combination of medicine and therapy.

Being down and being a bit stressed are not depression and anxiety disorders. Whilst I think that, yes, 1/6 Swiss residents might get a bit low or a bit stressed occasionally, fewer actually have these diseases.

*Disclaimer *All things above spoken by someone who used to have mild/moderate depression and a moderate anxiety disorder. Not a medical expert. *Disclaimer*

Ticino is 42.5, but has 15 public holidays.

Tom

If I compare south and north Switzerland, I find people in the south happier, more relaxed and generally being able to enjoy life more. My hypothesis for the north is:

Lack of sun

More competitive environment

Higher commute times

People working much longer and late hours

Switzerland??? I thought it was Sweden?

German language.

Yes, but just looking at Switzerland as a whole is somewhat misleading. The population density of the Swiss Plateau (Mittelland) where most people live is about double the national density.

Weekly working hours do not depend on location but on the employer. There's a federal upper limit though, it's 45 or 50 IIRC.

the more people have the more they complain.

In any case the weather is not that bad. Have you ever tried north of Germany, the Netherlands or Dublin?

I am not sure how overpopulated Glattbrugg is, I haven't been there yet.. The big cities that I have been (regularly) visiting are very far from overcrowded megapolises... After 19:00 people in the streets are disappearing...In the small towns (which are a majority) I still cannot firuge out where people meet, hang out and how they unwind... And I think this is a problem - they do tend to complain about having too much work (working strictly from 09:00 to 17:00!!!) and lack of motivation, but they seems not to know how to have a quality relaxation time, fun, jokes or even doing sometimes silly things... too many rules, standarts - too little fun and positive... not enjoying work and not (really) enjoying time off - hard not to feel miserable =)

This is my personal observation, of course.....

"lack of sun" - did you know many people do not like sun here? I was surprised but this is true; The use of sun for your body is a different topic but generally local people are satisfied with weather;

"Longer hours" - I have never met any employed people (not self-employed or business owners) who work longer hours or does not complain about doing work! If you know some - please, please send them to me!

I suspect that there's a lot more to be depressed about in Iran than Switzerland.

A) you say you are a teacher ? apparently a lousy and bad teacher ! Who does not even know the names of countries

A-2) Do you speak about Swiss Kosovo ?

B) in other countries, "symptoms of depression" are not even recorded

C) ever checked how much "symptons of depression" costs the Iranian economy ???

The solution, should the Swiss really need one, send them here and let them read this thread.

My only concern....this might lead to more people "disappearing" from the streets. "...and 'poof' he was gone ̈" (Name that TV show?)

And thanks for the 10pm shower story. It reminded me that I had to get my wash in before the 10 pm cutoff.

Hey, share the love and smiles and one by one we can convert these GOS(P).

There is this YouTube video where this foreign guy (his English is very good, but you can still tell) asks a number of US girls if he can kiss them. In the video we don't see how often he is turned down on average, but he seems to have fairly good luck. When I asked a twenty something, single work colleague why he didn't try the same thing, he told me he would get slapped. So, smile, but be careful exactly how you show the love.

I thought it was 41h/week in Zurich Which is not a lot, and many people actually leave their jobs early... and despite a couple of European examples, people in many countries work much longer (not necessarily efficiently though)

I think that people here simply have more money and can afford more doctor visits. And (also having lots of doctors in my closer and extended family) think that doctors too easily give diagnosis of mental illnesses, disorders etc. It is a bad win-win for both parties: doctor gets the job done and does not have to think too deeply about his/her patient's problems and the patient can blame something for own problems.

p.s. why is it that some posts can be thanked some not? have been wondering this for quite a while, anybody has a similar problem?

It's not a problem, it's a "feature". Posts over a month old can't be thanked or groaned any more, on the basis that you should just move on and find something more up-to-date

Theoretically yes, but 60% of Switzerland is inhabitable alpine mountains. 85% of the CH population live at heights of below 850 meters above sea level. The Canton of Graubünden, the largest canton by territory, has a population comparable to the "Kreis 2" of Zürich. Those hordes of people you see up there usually are Englishmen enroute

> strictly until 17.00 ? quite many work from 09.00 until 17.30 or 18.00 or 18.30

> people meet at home, in restaurants, in public meeting places, in clubs

> people HAVE fun, relax and joke, and at times DO silly things

Or from 5AM to midnight...

(Form many working in international markets the work day starts and stops in the client's time zones. Yes, even in Switzerland.)

I have a feeling that the more prosperous a country is, the more unhappy the people are... at least that was my perception of Switzerland when I first arrived. The people don't face many hardships (ie no money to pay bills or rent, or to buy food) and so end up being depressed because they never learned to deal with problems...

actually it is quite weird to me that people just meet somewhere. back home it is usual you meet, sit somewhere, then take a walk aroud and you will see in the streets many people doing exactly the same. here streets are empty, when I go to the lakeside after a dinner I see mostly some youngs who do not appear very sober... and their number is also not that big