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Just to sum it up: You live in Bern and you are complaining that the locals are not the fastest... that's ok, we all know that - but telling foreigners not to come to Switzerland based on your very personal experience is a bit off. There are a lot of high tech companies from small start ups to MNCs that seem to work better than your employer. If you want to vent your frustrations - perfectly fine with me... but please to it in the complaints corner instead of here where some young graduates might take you too serious...

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You sound like a bitter old spinster who has been cheated by a couple of men due to her own bad choices and who now wants to tell everyone how bad all men are. We get it: you/'ve got some bad experiences with your employers in Switzerland, that's all very well, we don't dispute it. But there's overwhelming support for the argument that your anectotal evidence is not quite backed up by industry figures. I'm an economist, not an engineer, my experience with technology is next to zero, but I do know that a) the above-mentioned D-A-C-H region is the technology leader in in a vast range of technological fields and are export leaders for that very reason.

Not as sexy as smartphones, granted, but B2B works a little different.

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And that says it all.

I may sound "like a spinster", as you say, but you sir, you sound like an idiot. (And by the way, what a stupidly, predictably sexist comment, can't you be just a little bit more original?)

I'm happy to show you a tour around my company and get some friends to show you a tour around theirs so that you can see with *your own eyes* how "modern" you think the manufacturing and controls industry is in Switzerland. I even showed you some pictures that even an economist like you would agree, does not constitute "cutting edge technology" by any means. By your own admission you don't know jack about the industry we're talking about and yet are not interested in learning from people who do. Your statistics and figures may look sexy and all, but there are spreadsheets, and then there's reality. Go back to your spreadsheets, economist. Let the engineers do the real work. Incredible as it sounds, some of us are here because we actually *do* want to bring Switzerland back from the stone age. At least we're trying, as opposed to shutting our eyes, covering our ears and proclaiming that your country is goddamn technology paradise while doing nothing and letting it sink further and further into 20th century oblivion.

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Why?

I mean I can see the allure of 'doing your bit' to help a village in Ethiopia have clean drinking water or something.

But 'doing your bit' to bring Switzerland's engineering sector back - and from the 'stone age' of 1998 no less!

I'm genuinely curious. Why is this the challenge that motivates you? Did it motivate you to come here in the first place, or does it motivate you to stay here now you're here, or is it simply a coping strategy so you don't strangle your boss? (Hey, we've all been there.)

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This discussion is getting as lame as Festo's robotic dragonfly demo for Merkel and Putin last month...

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I would have to say that using smart phones as bench mark is probably not a good idea, basic functionality of a smart phone hasn't changed much over the past few years they've all had touch screens, bluetooth, GPS, WIFI, camera, what has evolved is newer faster processor chips, smaller components and larger memory but the basic blocks are still the same, IMHO most new phones are not from scratch but rather a refinement of an existing design, however a new rack mounted slot in card providing new functionality is much more likely to be from scratch. The complexity of both though is probably similar

We also need to remember that a slot-in card and a smart phone are targeted at two completely different markets having different requirements, different regulations and different production volumes. From a complete product point of view getting a smart phone is more complex but not from an engineering point of view. And I would bet a lot of the work for smart phone is done by the suppliers of the various chipsets (GPS, GSM, Bluetooth) and that as a smart phone manufacturer you buying pre-qualified parts, yes you still have the responsibility of making sure that when everything is assembled it still passes the regulatory checks.

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Just on the subject of Electrical Engineering jobs, does anyone know if there are any Electrical Drafting opportunities in Switzerland? I am currently working in Australia (being Aussie and all) but looking to try and relocate to Switzerland more permanently!

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Yes because e.g. ABB and Alstom are not cutting edge in electrical engineering...yeah..... ...stop reading business magazines...

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First to the OP there is A LOT of very good and innovative companies here, and the Swiss are VERY dedicated to their job and it's a pleasure to work with them.

Second, don't listen to "red conundrum" he is truly clueless...

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/science_...l?cid=35326838

http://www.wipo.int/pressroom/en/art...icle_0014.html

Top 10 Leaders in the Global Innovation Index

Switzerland Sweden Singapore Finland United Kingdom Netherlands Denmark Hong Kong (China) Ireland United States of America

Yes Switzerland is 15 years behind...bright guy

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http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/wirtscha...story/25329142

With "Global Innovation Index" the indictors used were:

- the electricity consumption

- the growth rate of GDP,

- frequency of changes in Wikipedia articles.

The hard facts are: in (hydro)electricity generations, micro-mechanics, pharmaceuticals, manufacturing tools and automation - yes, of course, Switzerland is among the advanced countries, no doubt.

In advanced microelectronics, advanced software tools and infrastructure - nothing substantial happens. Hey, give me some Nobel laureates in these domains (except for IBM's research from Zurich) or Turing award (except for Mr Wirth).

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This list from ETH might come in handy:

http://www.dz.ee.ethz.ch/en/our-rang...itzerland.html

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Alstom have Electricial Engineering jobs in the field of Generators and grid equipment. Also try ABB who make electrical switchgear and transformers. Both are based in Baden.

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Swiss companies in this field:

http://www.sensirion.com

http://www.ublox.com

OP should probably try to apply there...

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sorry, meant red_conundrum (not OP) should apply.

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What a disgusting sexist comment. Why are you personally attacking this female? By all means disagree politely, but this is offensive bile that has no place on this forum. You have no right to act in a personally vindictive way here. Would you make comments like this, substituting the gender prejudice for prejudice against skin colour, disability or sexuality?

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Way to revive an old thread. But I think you missunderstood my message: I was comparing red_c's experience with someone who made bad choices and now blames the entire category of that choice (in my example: men, in the thread: industry) on these bad experiences. Anectodal evidence often emits that one has a role to play (choice, action) in these experiences, and that was my message. So I wouldn't know what all of that has to do with prejudices against anything.

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This sort of frothy-mouthed outrage as a consequence of hopeless reading comprehension skills is becoming depressingly common on EF these days. I've been at the rough end of it a fair few times myself.

To be fair on Spellbound, though, she doesn't seem to be a native speaker of English, so it's possible that she got the wrong end of the stick because of that.

Anyone who thinks simon_ch is a sexist pig, please do us all a favour and look up "simile" in the dictionary, ta.

I've highlighted the most important word in the first sentence to help the hard of thinking:

I despair sometimes. I really do.

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that would indeed be new tech. Since nobody erases eeproms via UV.

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And apparently, nobody ever produces a typo, either.

Let me ask you something. If I went back and edited my typo, would you still be proud of the time you wasted making these sorts of petty little posts?

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sure... typo.

I guess you accept mistakes.... opps sorry. typo.

joke thwarted by word censorship. Awesome.