EU Engineer with no experience

Nobody talked about remote jobs. It is simply a fact that it will be extremely difficult to get a job with no experience and no local language knowledge.

As said, why not another country and get experience? Your chances of being hired here, even within 6 months, are very low. Unless you want to work for practically almost no money. And then you ́d need to have enough money to be able to stay here for 6 months?

I'll definitely look into the programs you mentioned.

Thank you for your reply!

I was thinking about applying for some internship as the barrier to entry is probably a bit lower. Thank you for your suggestion!

I'll do that. I was mainly looking for some insight somebody could provide about the process but it seems there isn't much to it but to do it.

Thank you for your advice!

My thinking was to try and get a job now in a country where I would eventually want to go and live. Why wait for a few years when I could go and work there now (in a few months time) and get the experience there.

Obviously, the lack of experience is a much bigger hurdle than I'd imagined.

Also, who knows where I'll be in a few years, maybe I'll have kids or be comfortable at a job here. My "plan" was to go now while I still have relatively few attachments.

Thank you for you quick replies!

Check out this thread and company. They’re apparently on the look out for young engineers due to an aging workforce so could may fit your educational background. Company language is English. One imagines this could be a situation reflected across other Swiss multinationals in the sector.

https://www.englishforum.ch/jobs-off…nt-wanted.html

https://www.oerlikon.com/en/

I understand.

Well, I wouldn't say I have no knowledge of German as I'd estimate it's at A1 level now. But that is probably not enough to be competitive / desirable.

I'll think about everything you said.

Thank you for you advice!

I saw the thread and wanted to message the OP about it but my account wasn't verified yet. I'll try now.

Thank you for the suggestion!

That'll wear off after a few months.

First time here I begged my boss to let me go back 😀

It hasn't worn off for me yet after over a decade, I still think it's paradise on Earth!

I keep telling my friends that it's not perfect, but the average level is higher than elsewhere in many areas

Fun thing is many Swiss and some of us have found the crazy equilibrium of spending thousands of CHF to spends some weeks abroad to be happy for a while and then come back to paradise on Earth. Yes, living more than 180+ days in CH, but trying to get out of here as much as you can, happines

Sorry I don't think it is realistic to secure a job without physically being here, unless you have good connections or a highly sought-after CV

If your number 1 goal is to build a career in Switzerland you already have some great selling points: EU passport, good education and clearly you have a lot of self-motivation.

If you are willing to also take a few steps backwards, come here and work your way up by gaining Swiss work experience, building your professional network, and nailing the German language, I'm sure within a year or two you'll get to where you want to be.

This!

Come over, get somewhere cheap to live for 3-6 months, find any job by proactively getting out there - Irish pub, labourer, etc, - and focus on building your network and German language skills. I'm sure that within a year or two you will progress further than you expect and land a role closer to your field of study if that is what you want at that time.

Good luck!

Oh, this. Yes.

As holder of EU passport you have the right to come here to search for a job. Your permit will be limited, but if you find *any* job then it will get extended, up to 5 years.

You can use the temporary job to improve your chances of getting the job you originally wanted (at least you will be in the country with some language knowledge).

Sadly for many, not all 'EU Passports" are treated equally by the Swiss.

Western Europe = good.

Eastern/Baltic = umm... fine ok. But there is more red tape if I'm not mistaken.

Unofficial red tape of course, but there are many reports of discrimination across the various cantonal authorities.

The last country to have special restrictions was indeed Croatia, but it's not the case anymore since 01.01.2022. Restrictions may still be reintroduced if needed until 2026.

I can't speak for unofficial red tape - we all know there's so many things a company may not like* - but at least for official paperwork from authorities there should be no issues. Ok, to tell the whole story, my experience and feedbacks are mainly from Zürich area, which is the most international - YMMV.

*some people in some areas complain about the Germans just because "there's too many". So not even the EU-15 nationalities are 100% safe...

Apply for internships and graduate programs with larger (international) companies that reside in CH (think pharma in Basel, financials in Zurich; not sure about your industry branch - you'd need to research on it).

They will have English as the base language, and you won't be eliminated due to no German (although of course it's a plus).

You don't have to move here first as the interviews can be and are done remote (and you get invited and trip paid for by them if they wish an in person one).

You also don't have to work at jobs you were not schooled for at first (e.g. in order to acquire language skills).

It's not easy, but it's certainly possible (if you have sought-after qualifications).

While I think the feedback you received here is valid I wouldn't rule out the option either. There is a regular and steady demand for engineers and German is not always a must have, even if it is very much appreciated

I think if you are flexible about the location and the industry then there might be some chances for you. Be open to internships and temporary contracts because these will open the door for potential future opportunities.

Most of the jobs you would be looking for are probably in LinkedIn. Make a good profile and apply directly via LinkedIn where possible .

All the best!