Family reunification or National D

Hi

I will be issued Permit B.

When I did some research conditions were :

Applicant needs to have A1 German or enrolled for it

I should be able to prove I can look after my dependants and financially sound and have adequate space to accommodate

I would like to apply for family reunification visa to bring my parents

1.Could anyone please tell me what would be considered as good salary to bring my parents ?

2. What would be space required to accommodate two more people ? Quadratic metre square

3. as my parents are aged I don't think they be willing to learn new language

Main purpose of this family reunification is my parents could visit me without applying for visa everytime.They wouldn't stay permanently with me as they are working in home country

Not sure if they my parents are eligible to apply for national D visa. What I understood it's for parents of eeu nationals..pls correct me if i am wrong

I can ́t remember if you are from the EU or non EU?

If you are non EU. this will be very very difficult.

https://www.englishforum.ch/permits-...-b-permit.html

See the post from Medea in this thread. IIRC it is only possible if your parents are already dependent on you now and have no one else to take care of them.

https://www.ch.ch/en/family-and-part...reunification/

This is confusing two different legal concepts. "Reunification" means, precisely, that your family members would, indeed, stay with you permanently . A "visa", on the other hand, is exactly to visit, especially to return to their work in their home country .

It's one or the other. One can't have a pretend reunification just for the convenience of not having to bother with a new holiday visa application each time they would like to visit you.

However, don't worry: the fact that you'd be able to prove that they reside in their country and that they work there would help whenever they apply for a visa to visit you. This is because such factors help to demonstrate that Switzerland runs no risk of your parents trying to sneak into living here, illegally, but that they have every intention of returning home. This is what the immigration authorities are looking out for when deciding about whether or not to issue a visa: the assurance that the visitors will return to their own country.

Not possible in the way you want it to work. Family reunification means they live with you here all the time and are dependent on you for financial support, not travel back and forth to the country where they live/work. They’re going to just have to apply for a short stay visa, but maybe they could get a multiple entry one which would cover more than one visit at a time.

Alright . Multiple entry visit works until I get C permit. I guess for C permit holders its easier to bring their parents to my place.

I am from non EU country . Sad to know this

Even so, you'll need to be clear about whether your parents would be just visiting on holiday and then returning to their home, or whether you'd be trying to import them to live with your permanently. These two concepts (and the respective procedures for visas or permits) are completely separate.

In addition, as roegner said, any possibility of your parents leaving their home completely to move to Switzerland and live with you permanently (if this is even possible) would depend upon your proving that you have been financially responsible for them for some time, and also that there is no-one else to care for them in their home country, as they age. That's plainly not the case, at least not yet, since they are working.

As per the link , my parents can't apply for family reunification as we are non EU😭 i wish there was a way out like if parents fall ill or something. Recently my mom fell from stairs and had urdergone surgery . After this incident , I am more worried.

When i searched it shows "Any family member can apply for a C visa as long as they meet the general requirements. D visas are only available to spouses/registered partners and children under 18 (plus parents, grandparents and grandchildren for EU/EFTA citizens). The visa cost is CHF 88 or CHF 44 for children aged 6–12. The Swiss authorities provide the application forms in a variety of languages."

Short stay D visa is only for spouse and children . Parents of non EU isn't falling.

Only option left for my parents is tourist visa. They r visiting Switzerland for second time. Apparently immigration authorities are issuing visa only period of itinerary not for 3months as it's used to before

For non-EU nationals, no. Makes no difference what permit you have. It’s extremely difficult to bring non-EU parents here permanently. They must already be financially dependent on you, i.e. you have to be supporting them financially in their home country, and there must be no other relatives who could look after them. Even then there’s no guarantee you’d be able to bring them here. Meloncollie was looking into this some time ago for her parents so may be able to give you more info.

How to find melon Collie here in this forum?

Found her by searching jus dropped a msg to her

https://www.englishforum.ch/members/...loncollie.html

Darn. Ninja'd by the edit.

There seam to be some confusion about "permit" and "visa".

A visa is a stamp in the passport which allows to initially ENTER the country. Some nationality need always a visa, some only if they want to work or stay longer than the 90 days in any 180 day period, and some nationalities do not need a visa at all.

There are two major types of visa: The Schengen Visa C, which is for short stays up to 90 days in any 180 day period, which might allow a single or multiple entry into the Schengen area, and the national visa D which is used for longer stays. The visa C is issued based on the common Schengen rules, while visa D is issued based on the rules and regulation of Switzerland. A visa D can usually only be issued if there is a pre-approved permit

A permit allows to work, study, or stay longer 90 days. Non-EU/Non-EFTA nationals need a pre-approval, EU/EFTA national can usually get one by simply registering their residency (if the fulfil the conditions of the FMOP).

To add further confusion, the English language is not very precise and the term "permit" is used for two different things: once for the actual permission (in German Aufenthaltstitel), and second also for the physical card (German: Ausländerauseweis, which means foreigner ID). The permit card shows that the corresponding permission permit exists. It is like a passport or driving license which shows citizenship or the driving privileges.

A permit might be for residency only, for work with a specific employer only, or allows any kind of work . The physical permit acts as a visa substitute for entering Switzerland and the Schengen area, and one can travel as a tourist up to 90 days in any 180 day period in the Schengen area. The most important permits are permit L (short term residency up to 1 year), B (residency), C (permanent settlement), and Ci (family member of diplomats and members of international organization with regular gainful employment). ( All permit types: https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...ufenthalt.html )

A permit is usually issued based on a reason, such a work, study, medical, pensioner, family reunification, diplomacy, the FMOP (Free movement of person agreement with the EU), etc.

Procedure for family reunification:

Only Swiss and EU/EFTA nationals have a right do bring there extended family to Switzerland. Non-EU/EFTA person , be it on permit C or B, can normally only bring spouses (by Swiss law their a person can only one spouse) and their children. See chapter 7 FNIA and Annex I Art. 3 FMOP .

To get a permit for the family members you must have enough living space, the finical means. If this is fulfilled, you make an application for family reunification with your cantons immigration office. If approved the relative can apply for a visa D at their usual place of residence ( if a visa is needed ). Once the visa stamp is in the passport they can move to Switzerland ( see customs information ), register their residency which activates the pre-approved permit (the permission), wait for invitation to take biometrics for the permit card, get biometrics taken, and wait until the permit card arrives. The permit is usually a permit B which allows to take up any work. (Exceptions apply, such as for children under 12 which will get permit C if the parents have permit C. The restrictions for Croatian nationals no longer apply).

tl; dr; One does neither apply for visa nor permit but simply for family reunification. If approved a permit B and a visa D (if needed) is issued.

It's very clear. Thank you for taking time to write this detailed

What if the 3rd country national B permit holder is married to an EFTA citizen on a C permit. Can she apply for reunification of her mother?

No. Non-EU can only bring spouse and children under age 18. Doesn’t matter that your spouse is a C permit holder, it’s not their parent you want to bring here, it’s yours.

Hi MomoToo, I am sorry that you mom fell and needed the surgery, I hope she is OK now.

As a non-EU person, you can bring your parents to live in Switzerland under specific (very restrictive) conditions.

1) Foreigners who are no longer employed can be granted residency in Switzerland if they 1) have reached the minimum age specified by the Federal Council, 2) have special personal ties to Switzerland and 3) have the necessary financial resources. The minimum age is 55 years. All of these conditions have to be met.

2) The application for the residency permit can also be granted if there is a serious case of a personal hardship. The assumption of a serious personal hardship means that the person concerned is in a personal emergency. This means that the living conditions, measured against the average conditions of foreigners who are not allowed to stay in Switzerland, must be called into question, and the refusal of the permit would result in serious disadvantages. This can be, for example, in the case of relatives in need of help and support who are absolutely dependent on the care of people living in Switzerland. When assessing the case of hardship, all aspects and special details of the individual case are taken into account.

The decision is completely in the hands of the cantonal immigration authorities and can be appealed up to the federal level and further in the European court of human rights.

You would definitely need an immigration lawyer to help you with the paperwork.

Only EU citizens have special rights to bring their non-EU parents to Switzerland. Swiss citizens and non-EU citizens can do this only under very specific conditions.