First use of the suicide capsule in Schaffhausen

I´d say: can you still laugh about that if that is your mother, partner, aunt in that capsule or wanting to commit suicide? I don´t think it is something to joke about but as I can see here, opinions differ.

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What makes someone’s opinion here more important or rightful than anyone else’s?

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Humor is often a way to cope with life’s difficulties. A healthy one, mind.

I’m quite surprised that any adult needs that explained.

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Excellent question. I’d not laugh. But, me being in miserable situation is no reason for other people to act in a special way or to share my grief. Empathy for grief is nice, but I’m not an entitled to it. What is exactly achieved by spoiling the happiness of others? For lots of things, ignorance is bliss.

But then what one thinks is funny, the other one may think not.

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That’s all very well but not everyone shares the same sense of humour.
What may be funny to one person may not be to someone else.

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So what! Are you a snowflake?

It’s impossible to please everybody at all times. People are different, the only question is who dislikes your stuff. The proper reaction is to ignore what you don’t like, I’m sure I’ve seen multiple remarks to that end by you mods.

That aside, your two’s tone policing is misplaced given that you keep ignoring the gravest insults and other types of personal attacks (in other threads).

That is generally the case with any kind of humour.
Worse: What a population of one country finds funny, the population of an other country doesn’t even understand.

Anyway, I have no problem with the jokes (the owner of this forum caused a spontanious laugh to be honest) but I find the subject of the thread worth a serious discussion (accepting all opinions, please).
This capsule would not be my thing.
Then the Dutch article mentioned that foreigners pay 10K to for example EXIT. Swiss people also pay 6K to them, maybe it’s “cheaper” beause all the psychological checks in advance and the doctor present is basically paid by the KK for people living here and the cremation, the police investigation done in every case and all the paper work as well as all the court-work re legacy and who is legally entitled to it (that can be LOADS of people, believe me, I was on one of these long lists the court once sent me after the death of an aunt and many of them were foreigners, so more work for the court to find them all) has been paid by the taxes of the deceased.

Last but not least: I personally disagree, that foreigners can travel here just to die. The problem is not being a foreigner but I feel, it should be for people living here only.
Maybe someone will now argue that our foremothers used to travel to the Netherlands to get an abortion in the old days. Which I guess is fair enough.

Reading through this thread with this running in the background.

Ways to go: I have this vision of a bathtub. First a layer of berries, laced with Gin. Then layers of cream whipped with nitrous oxide. Put in the ear buds with seventies classics playing and slowly submerge…

Some updates by Blick,

Schaffhausen prosecutor has 1 person in pre-trial detention but charges are still unknown. The rest of people arrested have been freed after 48 hours. The prosecutor tell they are charged for something (charges still unknown) but the process requires no detention. Among them, the journalist that made the photos used in media.

A curious revelation is a letter from the cantonal prosecutor to “the last resort”, the organization in charge of the machine. Quote from Blick quoting the cantonal prosecutor:

“We warned them in writing. We said that if they came to Schaffhausen and used Sarco, they would face criminal consequences.”

Those criminal consequences are presumably the charges against the person in pre-trial detention. Somehow, still not public information. The longer the time it’s kept secret, more conspiracy theories will arise.

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If it becomes necessary, I’m just gonna leave a note for my OH, take the last gondola up, and lie down in the snow with a bottle of best Cognac.

Although not committing suicide (and I expect that people who choose that path have a lot on their mind which I can’t comprehend), my sister’s partner, faced with incurable cancer, and with only a few months to live decided he didn’t want to end his life in a hospice.

They went on a few trips together, a bit of a bucket list of destinations - the wilds and islands of Scotland and so on.

For the last few weeks, they rented a cottage overlooking the sea* in his favourite spot on the UK’s west coast, going for walks on the beach and he passed away with his partner and family at his side.

*With the owners absolute consent, of course.

Was lucky, most cancer patients in the end phase pass away either in agony, or drooling their last days under strong drugs,

He definitely wasn’t lucky.

He was also in pain, and on strong pain-killers at the end but my point was he chose where he was going to end his days.

Sorry did not mean anything. I just remember too vividly how my mother went.

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all these opinions are selfish, one way or another

When I was a teenager I was dreaming of jumping to a space ship and fly far far away to the space as far as I can… assuming it’s a one way trip but that was something I really wanted to do because of curiosity. These days I couldn’t care about exploring the space anymore, but on the other hand I don’t think I would regret being on such space ship far far away, saving me from all the issues I had in my adult life here on earth and all the BS around I have to filter out every day not to get insane :stuck_out_tongue:

Regarding the Sacro, or other such ways to terminate, I fully support the idea, though I would vote to make a requirement of a long waiting period, say 5 years where you would have to confirm your wish every month until the clock times out. Any hesitation during the period should cancel the entire process.

True words. I joke to tell myself how ridiculous is to think about self-destruction. I mock suicide because I mock that little part of me that spends too much time thinking about it. So, it’s not about triggering others to enjoy the reaction. Sorry if I went to far. Joking it’s a crutch.

Switzerland used to have one of the highest rates of suicide in the world. There has been suicides in most families or social circles. Switzerland has come a long way with mental health and tearing down taboos.

Having said that, most Swiss are quite pragmatic when it comes to death and are very much in favour of assisted suicide when it comes to terminal illness only. Why prolong the inevitable and watch a patient suffer needlessly?

By the way, is a snowflake and a wet rag the same thing?

Not reporting suicide in the papers was a double-edged sword.

Obviously not wishing to encourage others in copy-cat deaths, the other affect was that Swiss people actually believed that there were really low rates, or even no suicides in Switzerland.

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