Next thing you’re going to claim that starvation is a myth because the body will make up for the calorie deficit. The missing calories will be conjured out of thin air somehow, beating the laws of thermodynamics.
Meloncollie. There is this “app”
on the Apple Store. It contains a video introduction to learning one of the basic forms. This is free. If you would like to go further it costs $10 to unlock all the other 10 videos which provide step by step instructions.
I think it’s a good start if you cannot find a class.
my mom started with 65, and a totally destroyed spine. Five years later (at 70!), she had not just ‘learnt’ , but mastered it, raised various dans, or duans, or however you call it. I saw her making her routine (it looked almost like classical ballet) with a massive fan, a sword and a spear, and I was mesmerized. She was in better physical (and mental!) shape than me; in summer, she would practice at the beach at sunrise… and she had ‘followers’!
‘spontaneous students’
When she started, I thought of it as an ‘old people’s gym’, but I would strongly recommend it (I tried it myself with a friend of mine, who is a certified chinese doctor, but I found it a little bit too slow for me – for now…)
Actually the next thing I’m going to claim is that you are being a d1ck.
You wrote something earlier which you always thought to be true. It isn’t, and I called you out on it and from then on you’ve made childish remarks to everything else I’ve written on this thread.
There are enough science non-believers on Twitter and other Social media so give it a rest here or come up with some convincing arguments as to why you think what you think is right.
“Because Tracy on Facebook said so” isn’t one.
It’s you who claims that thermodynamics don’t apply, that somehow the body bypasses them.
You’re calling on voodoo.
Where did I write that?
This what you wrote.
You try to bypass the question at hand with the rest of your unnecessarily lengthy stuff. Stuff that’s simply not relevant to the topic at hand.
Btw, you need to work on better controlling your emotions. Every child is better at it than you. Your personal attacks and smears have zero value, all you do with them is demonstrate your immaturity. You don’t win a discussion with them, if there’s even anything to be won in the first place.
I wrote that because it is true.
Burning 100 calories each day through exercise does not equate to 100 calories of fat loss.
That’s what you can’t comprehend. The likes of Coca Cola and others have convinced you it is true but real-life studies and research have shown it isn’t true.
I’ve given you a few real-life examples and showed you where your thinking is flawed but all you have done is made childish retorts.
If you think I have got personal then flag my posts.
That’s the correct procedure rather than crying like the big baby you appear to be when you have been called out on the nonsense you spout.
Wow, I go away for a week or so and the kids trash the place
Anyhowz…
I’m into my second dose of Wegovy, and I do notice light appetite suppression and occasional nausea. I only discovered online (not through my doctor) that I am on the initial dose of 0.25mg..With each month (after a phone check-up) I’m suppose to ramp up to 2.4mg!! I can imagine the ramp up is to stop the side-effects.
I will see what the effects are of 0.5mg (next month) and may choose to stay there for a while. As I do a fair bit of cycling, the nausea could stop me from consuming enough food to do more than 2 hours.
For the kiddies, here is the science behind weight loss:
I’m not sure who the kiddy is here.
If you spouted on that the MMR vaccine caused autism then you should rightly be called out on it.
If you spouted on that a couple of hours of walking a week (or bouldering at a climbing gym) resulted in substantial weight loss, again you should rightly be called out on it.
Both are false and the short of rubbish on social media that the gullible appear to be taken in by.
(and if that’s you then so be it).
No one is disputing the mechanics of weight loss so not sure what the point of your video and sarcastic and uncalled for comments).
What newer research, which meta-studies have backed up, is that basically, calorie burn is the same in sedentary humans and people who exercise a few times a week.
What this means in simple terms is that exercise is not going to cut it to lose weight (but is essential for good health).
To try and lose weight, you’re taking a pill which is an appetite suppressant and causes nausea.
You are not, and no one ever has been sold a pill which make people want to take more exercise, to lose weight. And there’s a reason for that.
Rather than acting like a child yourself and criticising people who don’t agree with you and Roxi, perhaps you ought to come up with some data to show that exercises causes weight loss.
And if you don’t want any comments that may not agree with you then perhaps there’s a Weight Watchers forum you could join.
Who said I agree with Roxi? I disagree with him/her on many things. But there always comes a point where we won’t agree so I move on.
Mate, I never said the climbing was the cause of my weight loss, I just described my observation.
Childish is pushing your point, right or wrong, ad nauseum and to the point of getting personal.
Thanks for bringing up TED. I say whatever they show does not pass the lightest fact-checking. So, this is a natural experiment.
From the first articles google scholar sputters. We’re on 2025, we can read directly what scientists write. Skip the so-called science communicators. One more item to the list of TED fails.
In conclusion, our review identified hundreds of publication estimates of measured RMR to reflect groups of individuals that vary according to sex, age, and obesity status to be congruent with a public health perspective. We found that adhering to the nearly universally accepted convention of defining 1 MET as 1.0 kcal·kg−1·h−1 (or 3.5 mL O2·kg−1·min−1) may lead to the overestimation of the RMR of approximately 10% for men and almost 15% for women and may reach as high as 20%–30% in some instances for groups varying by these three common demographic and anthropometric characteristics. Given these errors in estimating RMR, one must carefully consider the longstanding adherence to using the conventional MET value for RMR. Even 2% error is a large imbalance taken over an extended time period. Because of existing public health efforts to address things such as diabetes epidemic, having better estimations of RMR, particularly for groups of women and older adults, may help better to plan and achieve intervention outcomes of intervention programs that target such groups of individuals.
Maybe too many words, chart form may be more useful. As we get older, resting metabolic rate goes down, and women have lower resting metabolic rate than men on average.
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…people with higher BMI have lower resting metabolic rate. That’s why being significantly overweight it’s a trap. Our bodies start playing against ourselves once we cross a weight threshold. All those happy numbers shown by the TED guy should be multiplied by 1.25 for people with BMI above 30.
My mistake. It looked like that to me with what you wrote:
And it did. And when I stopped, I put weight on again (despite transitioning to a lot of endurance sport afterwards). Nothing else really changed. Age? Maybe. So it was MY conclusion to MY situation. I never said it was a solution for others.
I appreciate other people’s views and opinions, even if it is isn’t what I want to hear. Hell, I even welcome it. How they say it though determines how much I value it.
Science would suggest it was what you were, or were not eating that would have made the difference.
Perhaps you were spending your evenings in the climbing gym rather than on the sofa, in front of the TV snacking on high calorie snacks?
It’s going to be roughly the same for everyone - unless you evolved as a different sub-species to other people.
We still haven’t evolved physically from the hunter-gathers we once were, before tools/weapons, when we could hunt down animals by our massive endurance, basically tiring them to exhaustion.
We can all do that still. Look at the shapes and sizes of people that run the London marathon. It’s not an elite thing - we can all do it with a bit of training.
(Did I say it right?)
It’s probably a mistake to look at exercise purely as the burning of calories. There so much complexity in our systems and what we do, that exercise could be the trigger for any number of changes in habits, hormones, processes etc. which can have different impacts including on our weight.
Dose up or maintain, unfortunately, now you are one more on the long list of chronic users of a medication. Best of luck!
From the Guardian:
An analysis of 11 studies found patients typically returned to their original weight within 10 months of stopping weight loss drugs
The study, presented at the European Congress on Obesity, found that even for those taking newer, higher-dose weight loss drugs such as Wegovy and Mounjaro, people put weight back on once they stopped treatment. While those taking semaglutide (Wegovy) and tirzepatide (Mounjaro) lost double the amount of weight compared with people using older jabs – 16kg on average – patients put on 9.6kg within a year, meaning they could expect to regain all 16kg again in just over 20 months.
So basically, you’re on the drug for life unless you change some more fundamental aspects of your relationship with food.
TBH, I think I’d be terrified of these drugs. I’ve seen a lot of reports lately of people ending up with things like pancreatitis after using them so it’s no thanks from me. I also don’t like that gaunt hollow cheeked look people seem to end up with.



