this isn't helping you so far but if you were a close friend of mine...i would suggest that you try new things. even if you aren't sure, or are scared about doing things that force you to change. you position yourself for adventures you might not have ever known.
i would say you'll find boring men wherever you go and that it is up to you to be open-minded enough, and engaged enough to want to mix with interesting people. that said, i went to dublin on a whim years ago and felt that it was home for me! i would love to live there someday.
i'm married to a swiss man...and very happy and appreciate of having him...
before got married, it seems to me i only met b@#$%rd men, and i considered my self very lucky of having my swiss husband, so grateful for that...and from what i seen from his guy friend too, they are all very nice and treat women good (most of them got cheated and left by their gilfriend cos the gils think these man are too nice and have no challenge anymore....which i think that opinions is very stupid,not many good man out there helloo....)
but you can't generalized man...my friend had a very bad experience from a swiss man
I've had a "badun" and a "gudun"
There are so many foreigners in Switzerland (at least in the cities) that if you don't work out with Swiss guys there is always the other 20%
Well let's just say that in Switzerland....exoticism is in full swing? The percentage of nationals married to foreigners is crazy in switzerland!
I agree, they're all the same, just speak different languages. I married & divorced a swiss with a swiss-german father & italian mother.
exact same sitch over here, except swap American for Canadian.
I feel pretty lucky actually. I think I'm the one who's been more...um...how shall we say? difficult at times. His patience has been a virtue.
true, there are certainly more of them than are people finding 7-month-old threads to answer
I cant comment on the men at all but I am pleased to see nobody challenged your views on Switzerland and being spontanious. That just would not be the case with the Swiss. They want order and a plan
I've been told by others that swiss guys are the most conservative guys of the world. Well, I think that comment is fairly extreme and generlizing, so it's untrue. It could stand for the guys who have never stepped out of his own town or village though. They are pretty conservative in dressing that's for sure anyway.
Swiss men are pretty saving, that's my conclusion from what I've heard.
I am an English guy being divorced by his swiss german wife (she is also half german and grew up in Ticino). I won't give you my bias thoughts on the subject of Swiss women, but I would advise you to stay away from Swiss Italian guys, they tend to be very immature, mummy's boys who spend half there life at home until they find a woman who can replace their mother!!
ok, I can't resist, the Swiss are, as someone wrote 'anal' from time to time, from my experience (all be it bad one) I can vouch for the fact that they like things a certain way, a certain standard and can be a bloody nightmare to 'debate' with.
Oh, don't get me started on the swiss french.....although they are certainly less frustrating than the actual french!!
Hi there, I'm Scottish and I've been together for over 7 years with a Swiss Guy and he is fab, very thoughtfull romantic and kind. Got to know lots of his friends and they are good Guys. That's me thou every one is diffarent. The once i know know how to have fun
hey there, Im also from Dublin, living in Basel, and I had a Swiss boyfriend for a while. They ARE different from Irish guys - take themselves a bit more seriously, and I agree - meeting up with people has to be more organised here....I dunno - its hard to get used to.....
The Swiss practice something called "planned spontaneity".....
Most of them make great fathers.
Forward observer, what does this mean, i am really intruiged....'Swiss men are pretty saving, that's my conclusion from what I've heard'
They do seem, in my humble opinion and only from the outside a little straight laced but what do I know, I only observe, i don't touch.While observing i have came to the conclusion that from a distance they do seem very good dads but is this only in the context of the women staying at home and being the good wife, i don't know.....
Hei!
Must say that i don't really know how it is with art life but I have impression that many actors who want to make it big head to Germany. What comes to organizing, then yes- there are clubs for every activity you can think of.
Having a Swiss man myself, I'd say they are great- that's also the general impression. I don't think that they are so conservative. I'd say that they are reasonable with money, people here like to have some savings and use it for something big, e.g. they travel a lot. No need to drink 'how did I get home?' , social life is more group centered (this is what also Swiss say- people move in certain groups). Also when going out, it's not really so that people go out and try to find somebody for the night- we came out together and enjoy time together as a group. At least this is the impression what I have. Friend of my boyfriend is really easy-going and we say that men are her big love and hobby but I've never heard that she has brought somebody home.
And what comes to international relationships- my boyfriend has a foreign gf (that's me) and quite a few of his friends have a bf/gf from another country. So it seems that Swiss people are generally loved
But sure you can come and try it out yourself!
Yay for generalizations! =p Swiss men overall have impeccable manners and are very friendly, whether it's stopping you at the supermarket to greet you or even on the street. I find this true for men of all ages here.
But they're still boringly vanilla.
Be aware that French Swiss are culturally and linguistically very French and so exceedingly disorganized and fairly spontaneous, that German Swiss are culturally very German and so exceedingly organized and disciplined and love to have structures with meetings and know about them 3 weeks in advance, while the Italian Swiss are very Italian, and so carefully chaotic and quite determined not to be determined
These are a few observations I'd have after living here for almost three years, also from an Irish (Dublin) perspective.
To begin with the Swiss, regardless of language, share the Germanic tendency for order, and in my experience are often more extreme than other Germanic peoples. For example, in an Anglophone company people get stuck into a project pretty early on, and often through trial and error, and numerous changes in direction get the job done. The Germanic, and specifically Swiss, approach is that you have endless meetings to plan out a project then at a much more advanced stage execute it. First time and according to plan.
Of course, this sounds like a much better way of doing things, and it is most of the time, but the downside is that the rigidity that comes with it will often result in lack of flexibility when something happens that is not according to plan. I've been in meetings where a Swiss begins a carefully crafted presentation to an American client, only to be told to stop the presentation two slides in and just get to the point - the utter terror in his eyes was palpable.
As a result, it can be quite frustrating in that it can sometimes be nigh on impossible to get them to think 'out of the box' . Things are done a certain way, and that's that - it makes no difference if it makes no sense in a particular situation.
So once you get over the discovery that things like public transport work like clockwork and you realize you could never go back to using Dublin Bus, you do realize that there is a distopic price to be paid too - being ten or fifteen minutes late for work, which would probably go unoticed in Ireland or it would be assumed you'll make up the time at lunch, a few times, will likely get you fired here.
Another thing to consider in Switzerland is that it is in reality not very cosmopolitan. Population is far more defused here than in other countries, and it is not unusual for most Swiss to have been born and bred in some tiny little village is the arsehole of nowhere. This means that once you leave the bigger cities (that are already small by European standards) you will find mullet hairstyles being sported without any sense of irony.
Naturally, the impact is that you'll get a culture that is often very conservative, old fashioned and prone to hypocrisy. Sexism is rife too, and I've been in meetings where questions that should have been directed to a female colleague will instead be directed at me, simply because I'm male. Ireland is far, far more equal in this regard. As a result, and conversely, divorce laws are especially punitive towards men here, as the presumption that a man should support a woman (who should really be a Hausfrau ) is still alive and well.
Additionally, I get the impression that many men here go, or have gone, to brothels - it's something that's hinted at in discussions, but seldom openly admitted.
There are parallels though between Swiss and Irish culture though, with hypocrisy being one of them. Coming from small towns and villages where a nod is as good as a wink and you can't afford to fall out with anyone, you'll see some of the same dynamics you'll see down the country in Ireland, with no one saying anything to your face unless they really know you and business often being decided over an Aperò (a few drinks) on a basis of personal contacts.
Of course these are general observations, and there are plenty of Swiss who don't fall into these categories, however you will find they're a lot more true than Ireland. The Swiss can be hard work as a result, which can lead one to return to the familiar and only befriend expats, however if you are able to adapt as well, and compensate for their idiosyncrasies, they're actually a grand and loyal bunch.