No problems at all.
In order to not open a new topic, after I had used the search function, I decided to post here, since my questions are more or less the same, and I ended up in this vicious circle comprised of rent/registration/permit.
Few snippets of relevant data:
- I got a job offer in Zug city
- EU resident
- in the long (after the 3 month evaluation period) I plan to have my wife and kid joining me
It's not exactly clear, but in the end, is it possible to rent without having the B permit? Does anyone know how the authorities consider this matter in Zug and surrounding kantons? (Schwyz, Zurich, maybe Aargau)?
I would very much prefer to rent a permanent accommodation from the start, but by the sound of it it is not really possible.
I'd also like to avoid paying 4K CHF minimum for the Vision Apartments, since homegate.ch/ums.ch have plenty of offers <2000 CHF.
That's if homegate.ch/ums.ch offers aren't untouchable without a permit.
My ideal plan was to rent something temporary+furnished until my trial period would end, within 1h distance from the Zug city centre.
Afterwards I could look up for a permanent accommodation and fire up ikea.ch
Not sure if this is possible though. Is it?
Many thanks.
PS: I've been lurking around for about 2 weeks now, very happy this forum exists, it helped clarify quite a few aspects concerning the relocation to Switzerland.
Welcome to the forum.
It’s possible to rent without a permit, there’s absolutely no need to have one as far as the authorities are concerned. It’s more landlords/agencies who sometimes are reluctant to rent to someone without one. But if you have your Swiss employment contract it shouldn’t be a problem.
Finding permanent accommodation - well, that would depend on where you want to live. In city centres or popular places the competition is fierce so it may not be possible. If you’re prepared to be out in the sticks more, not that close to a city then you may find something.
If you look on the following websites they all have options to search for furnished accommodation.
www.immoscout24.ch
www.immostreet.ch
www.homegate.ch
www.home.ch
Try wgzimmer.ch
In my experience, it's a complete waste of time to crawl through homegate.ch and think about all the cool living situations that are possible - you have to have loads of time free or be very available (aka already living in the city) to go around to the apartments, tour the places (at times when only the seller is available) and go through piles and piles of paper work for a first time renter in CH.
Going to wgzimmer made finding a place quickly with minimal paperwork and fuss. People are generally much more available and can meet any day of the week in the evenings because they want to find someone ASAP most of the time.
Now that i have a place i'll consider looking at homegate.ch but then again, i might enjoy the place i've found on wgzimmer. Anyway, that's my 2 cents.
If you got to homegate.ch all the places are gutted/empty and completely unfurnished most of the time. That's another pain in the ass you need to deal with.
Advice: 1)find somewhere wgzimmer 2)get settled 3)then consider looking for something permenant 4)don't get ripped off by those ridiculously opportunistic furnished flats by landlords looking for desperate expats (unless you make insane money and/or it's worth it to you).
To answer to your other question: a lot of places on homegate.ch will want to see b-permit / residence card although it depends on who the seller is. Again, i cant emphasize enough what a pain in the ass/time hog homegate will become if you use it as your first route. I really advise getting settled on wgzimmer first, if you coudn't tell already
Not a problem with the authorities. It is an issue of finding a landlord willing to rent to you. A landlord is free to whom he wants to rent, or not to rent.
The problem with a permanent location might be that the contract cannot be easily canceled withing the first 12 months unless you find a replacement (a.k.a. Nachmieter) willing to take over your contract. This might be more or less difficult depending on location, condition, and price.,
https://www.homegate.ch/rent/106971381?1
Less than an hour away, even with public transport.
Regarding wfzimmer, I would prefer to live alone, but it's good to know there's that option in case it's needed.
I did find some options but I was unsure about the B permit; I was under the impression that it's more or less a legal requirement.
Now that I know that it isn't, I guess I can start contacting people to see what they say about the lack of permit.
Are insurances that cover your deposit available without a residence permit?
Do people ask for that deposit for temp housing?
That would mean that airBNB is also when registering provided the owner agrees to put your name on the plate, right?