How legally get the 2nd job?

Hi Folks

Im already a full time employee of 42 hours per week.

But there is an interesting job offer by a company. I would like to keep my main job but in the remaining hours of the week or even weekends work for the 2nd one. Has anyone legally achieved this? Ofcourse the second job wont be fulltime but is there any specific contract type or something so that I could get the 2nd job with work load of 1 to 2 says per week?

Thanks

- Have the appropriate work permit

- Employment that don’t prevent you from working other jobs

- Employer’s permission if required

https://www.kmu.admin.ch/kmu/en/home…iple-jobs.html

An employer wishing to proceed with recruitment must itself check that the worker’s jobs comply with law, for health reasons among others. The regulations on maximum working hours and minimum break times must be respected, even when adding together hours worked with different employers

I.e. the second employer is responsible for ensuring you don’t exceed the maximum allowed. Depending on the job this is usually 45 or 50 hours.

Almost certain you won’t be allow to do a 2nd job because of this.

Your permit is most likely tied to your employer and as such you are not allowed to work for anyone else nor are you allowed to be self-employed here.

Yes my permit does not allow other jobs. But i suppose that the 2nd employer has to sort this out, right? Or is it because the 2nd job is part time they cant?

Then you cannot get a second job.

Tom

The 2nd employer cant apply for a new permit?

No, because your permit is tied to one employer and one only. It also may raise some red flags trying to apply for another job.

And why would an employer go through the hoops of hiring a non EU person for only a couple of hours a week? As that is the most you might be able to work at all.

would it be possible to set up a company (overseas if necessary) to contract the work and then the funds could be distributed to the shareholder?

You are here only because your employer was able to demonstrate a specific EU/EEA/CH labour market shortage and your work permit is limited to filling that shortage and nothing else. Consequently you are not entitled to seek nor accept such employment.

Isn‘t a non EU on a tied permit not allowed to freelance or set up a business?

Company would still have to prove they can’t find a Swiss/EU national who could do the job and as roegner said for a few hours a week it simply wouldn’t be worth any employer’s time to apply for a permit.

the company doesn't need to hire anyone or pay any salaries.

they are not banned from owning shares in a company, right?

From PoeAI:

Technically, a non-EU B permit holder can work part-time jobs during weekdays in Switzerland, subject to certain conditions. The B permit typically allows the holder to work for their sponsoring employer and in a specific occupation, but it may also allow for additional employment under certain circumstances.

To work part-time during weekdays, the non-EU B permit holder would need to obtain permission from the Swiss immigration authorities, as there are restrictions on the number of hours that can be worked while holding a B permit. The maximum number of hours allowed for additional employment is typically 15 hours per week, and the work must not be in competition with the local labor market or have a negative impact on the permit holder's primary employment. You may need to obtain permission from your primary employer as well, dependent on your contract.

It is important to note that the regulations and requirements for additional employment can vary depending on the canton in which the B permit was issued, so it is always best to check with the relevant immigration authorities for specific guidance.

So summary would suggest: speak to your primary employer and speak to the cantonal employment/immigration authorities, rather than a forum of people who haven't been in your position. From what I can find online, you need permission from the immigration authority to hold a second job; difficulty on getting the permission appears to depend on what the second job is and how many hours it is. Volunteer work at a local shelter may be easier to get approval for than an uber driver...

Work is work paid or unpaid it does not matter, the correct permit is still required.

No, they’re not, but that doesn’t give them the right to work here.

ah. but who says he's the one working. maybe he hired an overseas relative to do the work and the company is incorporated in that country?

Then that would mean the Swiss employer approaching a foreign company to do business with them and since it’s all out of Switzerland probably no permit required. But that’s not going to help the OP who’s based here.

Spinal you’re making an assumption the OP has a B permit when in fact they have an L permit. So any work outside of what they do already is a no no.

And back in the real world, the officers are not stupid and it would be really dumb to risk his permit, being excluded from the Schengen Area and have disclose that he was refused entry into Schengen in applying for a visa to enter the US etc...