I'm assuming that your husband and his brother are Swiss and one observation that I have is that the Swiss do not really like direct confrontation, and maybe this is why he thinks that nothing would happen. I would recommend that you go straight to the School Authorities and not waste your time talking to the teacher. She has obviously become complacent with these regular trips and is not taking the appropriate care of the children in the class. You have also had this problem before and she has not changed her ways.
I would explain to your husband that it is very important for you personally that you feel comfortable with the teacher and that a record should be made in case other parents have problems in the future. Sometimes us blokes just don't get the point I'm afraid. I would also get in touch with the parents of the other child and explain to them what you plan to do. I'm pretty sure that the teachers first defence will be that your child has been absent recently and that she was not sure that your child was even at school. This in my mind is totally indefensible as she should have taken a headcount before leaving the class as many others have said. But she will definitely try to deflect the blame away from herself as she did when she initially called you so you need to get the other parents on your side.
I would demand a meeting with the authorities and ask them what the process is for day trips. This is Switzerland, they are bound to have clear rules. You can then sit down and ask why these rules were not followed on two occasions. Hopefully the authorities will then take the necessary steps.
> My husband say`s it is not like the UK here, the system is different , he want`s to deal with it whatever that mean`s . He also said we can do what we want, but nothing will happen<
Yup, sounds like my Swiss husband. He's right and he's wrong. (Or as the Swiss say: yein) One formal complaint might not change much but many complaints will. If no one complains, how can the headmaster know there's a problem to be addressed?
Please, please make sure that a school leader is also involved with your meeting with the teacher. Otherwise it's her word against yours.
Yes my husband, and his brother are swiss. My husband HATES confrontation , and now he has calmed down, he his like well going to the head of the department of KG won`t matter, because he has met with them before (parent`s evening which i could`nt go as my 2 children where ill ), and he said they are like wet lettuces , that they would just brush it under the carpet. If this would have happened back in the UK then i would of done everything i could by now going to the head, reporting her to the local papers e.t.c., but it is the language problemi have. I can speak German, but when i am mad then i cannot get my words out properly so no-one would understand me .
Believe me i have had lot`s of arguments with my husband.
I agree with Mikey and olygirl. You will need to escalate this over the bilateral level to have any hope for change. You can sugarcoat this a bit for your husband. Instead of a reclamation it is a constructive feedback that helps the kindergarten to improve its quality . And then you write a draft, he signs, and off to the commission with this letter.
The KG is closing down after this term (not enough children for August). It is the KG teacher that is the problem. I would like to find out where her new job would be, so i could warn the new KG headmaster, about her. My writing in German is not so good, and i have no idea how to put it down on paper in a letter . I will ask my neighbour for help when she is home. I am not going to let this go.
Ok here is an up date my husband just spoke to the KG teacher to make arrangments for us to meet up (i want her to look me in the eye and say sorry). She is not here in the holidays, so we can meet when the KG starts again. She spoke to the other mother from the other little girl, and she said it was ok a simple mistake . I have just tried to ring this lady, but no-one picked up. Will keep you all informed.
Ok another up date, the KG rang back, and now we have an appointment to see her tomorrow afternoon will let you know what happens tomorrow when we have spoken to her.
I can't believe the mum of the other girl just said "ok it was a mistake", to the teacher. That's got to be just what the teacher is saying she said surely. Good for you in trying to contact her, keep on it girl until you get to speak to her, can't believe she would be that laid back about what happened. Good luck for tomorrow.
My husband met the other girls father (at the parents evening), and he his not swiss, but my husband said his attitude was so laid back he did not care about anything to do with the KG
I can't believe it either. Forgetting to put petrol in the bus would be a simple mistake. Forgetting to put two of the kids in the bus is a lot more serious. Give her hell and don't put up with any crap.
Not really a subject regarding children and forgetting about them but I read that a school in Kanton Thurgau was allowing themselves wellness trips and luxury binges when they were supposed to be working and planning that particular part of the school year. The worst case scenario for the teachers was that they had to pay the Gemeinde back and the teachers had the audacity to strike against the Gemeinde for they found it, “unfair that they should pay back the wellness trips and luxury binges”. The courts were the only ones that were able to stop their rude and appalling behavior.
My point is, that as long as there is no "scary figure" (lawyer, judge, police, press) involved, you can bet that this matter is long forgotten and you are just "the crazy woman who is still ranting on about the past" Which by your posts and comments would negate that statement because it seems to me that you are a very rational and reasonable person.
Good luck and if you need any help writing a german legal letter, I can totally help you, otherwise I also know a few Lawyers who could help me whip something up for you.
Ok i am back from our talk, she said sorry to me at first she argued with me, and tried to tell me she said sorry on the phone, but i was not having any of that so in the end she said sorry. She said it was also part Jades fault as she should of gotten on the bus, i argued again it was not Jades fault it was her fault as she is the teacher, and it was not acceptable. She then said sorry, and it will never happen again in future she will do a head count, and so will the other teacher, and the bus driver as they get on the bus. My husband wants now to drop it, he said it happened there is nothing we can do to turn back the clock, and stop it from happening. So as long as the teacher takes moe care in future then he is ok with it. I wish we where in England at times like this then i could go higher, but in this case i am afraid there is not alot i can do. I am fed up of having arguments with my husband.
One thing is not clear to me on this one. Am I correct in assuming that the reason the teacher phoned you in the first place was because she was not even sure if your child had turned up at the school or is this wrong.
Where I live here in Bern, we are required to ring in an absence for our child no later than 15 minutes of the bell. If a child fails to show at that time and they have not got a call from the parents, the teacher will start to call your contact numbers to let you know that your child was a no show, just in case some thing happend on the way to school.....
Congratulations on your confrontation. Good job! Since your child will be having another teacher next year and your husband is getting annoyed with the situation, it might indeed be time to let go.
You're a caring and responsible Mom. Keep up the good work.