How to top up 1st and 2nd pillar

Hi folks

I started working in CH while being 31 years old. I assume that I have a gap in terms of my payments for 1st and 2nd pillar.

1. How can check what my gap is? Do I need to write somewhere, or are there online services from government/canton?

2. How do I top up this gap?

3. Can I deduct this topping up in my tax declaration?

Pillar 2: the amount is on the yearly statement. In the first 5 years the amount you can pay in is limited.

Contact them and tell them what amount you want to pay in

Be more concerned about the AHV

You can see from the link below that buy back missing AHV contributions, but only from five years prior. It is not possible to pay for older gaps.

https://www.ch.ch/en/retirement/old-…-contributions

Why are people coming to work in Switzerland fresh not informed by this immediately, by their companies' HR/pension fund for example?

Would be worthwhile, not finding out about the 5 year cap 10 years after coming in.

Some do

And the notification on your pillar 2 statement is quite clear.

How do they calculate the amount to pay for AHV? Do they take your gross income from other country and then you pay the full employer and employee contribution? This could end up being quite expensive...

For the first pillar, contact the AHV cantonal office. They will tell you if you can or if you need to top it up in any way, how many years of contribution you have and also predicted pension if you wish.

For the second pillar, contact your job's pension fund.

And don’t forget your third pillar ...

If it is, it's quite high. I put a considerable mount into my Pillar 2 in my first year of employment.

Careful! The more one puts in the higher the tax percent on take out.

Who should inform you? However, if one comes from the EU previous working years before relocating to CH will be considered.

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At least since 2009

It was on my first pillar 2 statement here.

I was (or wanted to be) referring to Pillar 1/AHV.

Pillar 2 is obvious, sure.

Why buying back Pillar 1 is more important than Pillar 2? Because of this time limit or something else?

Well, I've heard about the "buying back" thing within my first 5 years here, but my inquiries ended with understanding that if I was working in EU before moving here I didn't have any AHV gaps to buy in. I don't know, maybe I misunderstood it due to language barrier, or maybe it was simply not possible due to EU laws.

OP, the term "gap" has many meanings. One might take a break without voluntary payment to AHV and zero contribution within a year makes you a gap in AHV years, where you need 40 years to get full 1st pillar pension. Now with 2nd pillar, the gap mean that the funds you have accumulated in your 2nd pillar will not provide you with retirement benefit giving you a lifestyle level matching your current one (living off your current salary). Of course people always start careers from lower salaries, so everyone has a gap at some point in their 2nd pillar as the previous contributions were much lower. Anyway, the minimum contribution (deduction from your salary) depends on your age. There are employers who pay more than the minimum, but most stick with the minimum I guess. In the end, the closer to the retirement the higher the % of your salary goes to 2nd pillar, plus usually your salary should be at the highest.

There's no time limit to top-up into your 2nd pillar, there's only amount limit. The more your earn the bigger pot you are allowed to have in your 2nd pillar, alas I don't really understand what's happening with 2nd pillar if someone riches the top of his career then decides to switch to some easy work paying peanuts. Most likely normal monthly deductions still have to be put into 2nd pillar but of course it won't be possible to top-up it as there would be much more money than a current salary would ever allow to build up.

If I had 20,000chf and I could use it to top up 1st, 2nd or 3rd Pillar - which would be the best option ?

You can't top up 3rd pillar beyond the amount stipulated every year.

Pillar 1 and Pillar 2 can be topped up but subject to guidelines.

Your employer should be able to confirm.