Is plastic trash sorting fair

I recently got amused by the simple fact:

10x 35L mixed-trash (Zürcher Unterland) bags - 16.2 fr
10x 35L plastic bags (link below) - 18 fr

If you ever had experience with these bags - the bags for plastic are really thin, you cannot pack as much into them as into Zürcher Unterland bags.

So one has two choices:

  1. Mixed all the trash together (Zürcher Unterland bags). Squeeze more trash in, throw away directly at your house, pay less for the bags.

  2. Mixed to Zürcher Unterland bags and plastic bags for plastic. Squeeze less plastic (weaker bags), sort, store plastic at your house until you go to the disposal place, transport to the disposal place and also pay more for the bags.

Now, I get it that a lot of people in Switzerland are intristically motivated to care abour environment, but this is getting ridiculous.
To protect the environment, I have to sort, store, transport to special location and on top of that - pay more than the person who doesn’t give a finger?

How can you convince an undecided neighbour to start sorting with a system like this?

You are worried about 0.18 centimes a bag?

Well TIS.

With a fine from the trash-police? That’s quite a nudge for undecided neighbors.…usse-103037344

Fun things should be happening at the Dietikon-Spreitenbach border. Oppressed citizens from canton ZH may come to the prosperous land of the free (AG) to dispose of their plastic without paying a single rappen

Try a pink bag from Mr Green

Using pricier recycling bags for plastic, compared to taxed bags for regular trash, is meant to stop people from tossing non-plastic stuff in them. But, it's not clear how much recycling non-PET plastics really helps the environment.

It reduces landfill.

You mean flyash. No traditional plastic filled landfills here.

Since the introduction of landfilling ban in Switzerland on 1 January 2000, all non recycled combustible waste must be incinerated. Switzerland has 30 municipal solid waste incinerating facilities (November 2018). [7]…in_Switzerland

Avoiding and reusing plastic reduces landfill. Non-recyclable waste that cannot be composted is normally incinerated in waste-to-energy facilities.

I used ChatGPT for a summary of this article in English:…chnet%20werden .

Greenpeace Switzerland challenges the prevailing narrative on plastic recycling in its March 2021 position paper, updated in May 2023. The document argues that while plastic collection and recycling are widely perceived as environmentally beneficial, the ecological impact is minimal, and the emphasis on these practices reinforces harmful consumer behavior. Greenpeace asserts that the current trend in plastic recycling legitimizes environmentally damaging consumption patterns, diverting attention from the root issues associated with plastic production. The paper emphasizes the limitations of plastic recycling, citing data from an independent study and highlighting the unsustainable nature of plastic, which is predominantly derived from fossil fuels. Greenpeace urges a fundamental shift towards reduction and reuse strategies, criticizing the potential consequences of expanding plastic collection systems and advocating for a genuine circular economy that prioritizes long-term sustainability over short-term recycling solutions.

Of course the answer is to reduce plastic use - re-cycable or otherwise.

I've only bought one bottle of water in the last three years - and it wasn't for me.

People often embrace recycling as it aligns with environmentally friendly values, providing a sense of responsible action. However, many do not question the fate of recycled items, assuming that all materials are indeed recycled.

The reality is that Switzerland's recycling facilities currently lack the capacity to manage the extensive plastic collection. A substantial amount is exported to recycling centers in Austria and Germany. There have been reports that German waste has been found in Romanian landfills, a consequence of China's refusal to accept foreign waste. Considering Switzerland's affluence, a fairer approach would involve managing its own waste, perhaps through incineration, rather than relying on other countries to handle it.

I am not opposed recycling. In fact, when bags for collecting plastic became available in our town, I quickly went and bought a roll. I just want to emphasize that the process of recycling plastic may not be as environmentally friendly as it appears at first glance.

Plastic bags were invented to help the environment.…-a9159731.html

Of course big business had other ideas.