I’ve recently watched this video about Frankfurt (drug addicts, illegal migrants, dirty streets etc.) and I’m wondering if Switzerland will continue to be an exception as compared to Western European countries, or it’s a matter of time for it to sink like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_kKHvbZ4lE
Comparing a city in Germany with the whole of Switzerland doesn’t really add up, though. Germany has areas which have issues such as you listed but plenty of areas that don’t, and are fine. Same as Switzerland, and other European countries.
Parts of Zurich and Geneva are dodgy AF, and have been for decades but I guess that’s normal for society in general.
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TBH, if I go into a “notorious neighborhood” at home and act like an ***hole I probably wouldn’t come alive. So, while the not the nicest neighborhood, it’s also far far away from society collapse.
Also, this is Germany. I thought people needed to consent to being recorded.
I also can’t help but laugh at the “no-go zone” exactly at the electric stairs that link the main train station, during the day. I hope this guy self-identifies as jelly, he’s not a man 
PS. 11m30s “there’s a lady OD’ing over there, let’s get out of here”. The guy abuses hyperbolic language. Anyway, there’s a law in Germany about duty to rescue. If someone’s life is really at risk (like overdosing) failure to provide assistance clashes with the criminal code.
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The problem is that these are areas you cannot avoid, like Zurich HB.
Speaking of Zurich…maybe they know a thing or two.
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I never understood that (in all the previous EF threads, too). I’m so often late in the evening at the HB in various parts of it depending on where I’ve come from and never seen any bother, and never felt threatened. I’m pretty average, and don’t look perma-angry, drugged up or martial-arty and still haven’t been caught up with ruffians.
Whereabouts do they hang out?
With Schengen and immigration policies, yes, it’s inevitable.
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What’s dodgy AF in Switzerland besides Langstrasse in Zurich? I seriously haven’t heard of other places so please educate me but even Langstrasse appears a civilised place at night compared to what I’ve seen in this video in daytime.
Yeah it came to my mind too! But it’s all history right
Platform 3, around Postbrücke. You can see people openly using drugs there.
Will Switzerland become like Frankfurt? Doupt it.
Will it generally deal with the same problems as the neighbouring countries? Yea, in about 25 years but imagine where they are at by then? 
It’s not that we haven’t had - or have - the same problems here. Zurich had it’s Blattspitz, when they chased them away somehow believing they would just evaporate into thin air it all built up under the bridge at Limmatplatz.
Then they started to hand out Methadon to those who were interested, opened special places where addicts could take/shoot what ever way there is their drugs in a sheltered environment with clean needles.
It’s a matter of dealing with these things (no pun intended). Reminiscing about “the good old times” or pretending addicts and homeless people are not part of the society is not a solution. They are.
I heard it say “if they carry on like that with the housing shortage they simply have to build more bridges”. Too many people try to solve problems by tearing up the bridges too.
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And drugs aside, as for a general uncontrollable influx of unwanted migrants, what is your forecast?
Not only history. It’s also lessons learned and guiding the current strategy of harm reduction and safe consumption rooms in Switzerland.
As for forecast, I don’t expect the situation to go that bad in Switzerland. Harm reduction policies get widespread political support. Pragmatism beats the human desire to punish addicts.
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Kash Patel in this video in this time-code more or less makes a point about CCP purposefully supplying the US with ingredients for fentanyl and that they’re even not making much money on it, i.e. he’s saying it is as a directed attack at population of an adversary country. https://youtu.be/C81bFx8CSA8?t=459
If it wern’t for the migrants I would not have lived in Switzerland for so many decades, I tell you that.
As to the “uncontrollable influx” who is that? You guys, the Schengen-people?
The asylum-seekers? The rejected asylum-seekers that didn’t leave? The sans-papiers who never asked for asylum?
No prediction from me, I have no problem with the situation. Ask me again in 20 years.
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Let’s say not skilled migrants but economic/welfare migrants posing as asylum seekers
I repeat: No prediction from me, I have no problem with the situation. Ask me again in 20 years
I had not bothered watching the video you posted but clicked into it now.
The guy is obviously a plonker.
Putting “crime, illegal migrans and drugs” in one description says it all.
Complaining about being told to put the camera away - well, try that in Switzerland. I fast forwarded a bit and watched him molest a lady, claiming she’s being filmed by the surveillance camera anyway so he’s entitled to put her on youtube. Don’t know the German law but here he’d be in deep shit for this scene.
Didn’t watch any further, not my level. Don’t know what you’re after with this thread but the sun is shining outside, did you notice?
Did like the “Waffenverbot” sign though Is it generally legal to carry guns in Germany? Apart from the parts where there are explicit signs? And if it’s not, does German bureaucracy actually think that sign will make a difference?
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You don’t have to engage with this thread of course, no problem.
I understand that privacy is important to Germans, his point was that he was allowed to record the street as a whole.
In any case, whether it was recorded privacy compliantly or not, if we walked into those streets I imagine we would have observed the same reality, and since it’s captured and we’re not in the court to reject illegally collected evidence, not sure it’s the most important aspect of the video.
I am almost never watching his videos what’s reasonably incorrect in those posts?