Life is getting tough in the UK

I don’t recall the 1980s being the best of times, as a country.

The Nuclear 4 minute warning siren used to go off literally just above our heads during double maths.
The threat of imminent nuclear war seemed everywhere.

British servicemen were getting killed in the Falklands conflict.

Gets my vote.

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The 1959 General Election gave the Conservatives their third successive victory, the first time that a party had won three successive general elections since Napoleonic times.
The outcome was widely credited to the deft materialism of Harold Macmillan, and the slogan `You’ve never had it so good’,

What ever could have gone wrong.

After Brexit, and the more serious Boaty McBoatFace ship naming debacle, I honestly don’t think the British public should be asked anything and expect a sensible answer.

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So, it may just be this:

Traditionally, psychologists thought of nostalgia as being based on a person’s recollections of their own experiences, which makes it difficult to fit what you’ve described into their account. More recently, however, the philosopher Prof Felipe De Brigard at Duke University has proposed that nostalgia is broader, and includes your yearnings.

De Brigard was inspired by research on memory that’s shown it’s a creative process. When you recollect memories, it’s not like you’re looking up a recording of what happened, it’s more like your brain creates a simulation of those past events.

In this way, De Brigard argues that nostalgia can be based on memories – simulations of pleasant past experiences – but doesn’t have to be. Given the role of imagination in memory, he says it’s not a huge leap to propose that nostalgia can also be based on imagined positive past experiences.

Top rationality to make decisions on this feeling.

Perhaps we should have Al make our major decisions for us in that case.

That would probably send me into depression if I were a hospital patient, I find Weatherspoon’s pubs to be pretty depressing places generally.

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Naaa, just be aware of our own limits in cognition to avoid getting carried away by a feeling.

It’s healthy to not overthink love, family, food, drinks, art…but money is a rational thing.

Those carefully selected survey responses show that creativity survives in Britain. I am sure the others were highly sensible and far too boring to mention.

Those were the “humorous” ones removed from the survey website.

Of course there are lots of useful ones.

(https://change.nhs.uk/en-GB/projects/your-ideas-for-change)

OT, but interesting…there’s a Portuguese word for this…sodade…longing for a time/place you may or may not have ever known.

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Sorry, I have to perform as concerned dad:

The guy went crazy in the 2nd video and blames immigrants for UK’s problems.

3rd video shows a cult leader arising in real time: alcohol is bad, pubs and football suck. Never been to the UK, but it’s not feasible anywhere is a poor neighborhood…and immigrants!!!

I guess this is the legacy of Andrew Tate, grifters specialized in every insecurity people can have. Be worried if you have teens at home.

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Already in the first video.

I think it is a sign that things will get ugly as more people struggle and minority groups are blamed. I don’t think it is a coincidence that across Europe, we see a swing to the political right.

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I think it is very symptomatic for most of Europe; try not to judge this guy too harsh.

How many of us didn’t think of their government “they don’t give a f**k?”? “It is better to get out”? :wink:

It´s not most of Europe, it is the entire world. The rich are getting richer and richer at the cost of the middle class who are now sliding to poverty. the world will truly become a world of haves and have nots and there is nothing we can do about it.
But why, what forces are behind this, is is just the system that we ourselves have created or the end point and culmination of human nature… A global tragedy of the commons on crack?
Britain, in an act of gibbering idiocy opted out of the very institution that could have staved off the worse of the coming end of the world as we know it, at least for a while, and is now paying the price… And if you want to know how the EU will look in a few years, just look at the UK now.

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That’s a pessimist interpretation.

An alternative one is that “I’m leaving the UK” is just another youtube genre just as cooking, fashion or car review videos. Just take a look, dozens of videos in the last year: site:youtube.com i'm leaving the UK - Google Suche

The question here is if all the videos are a symptom of something real or just another job. It’s not the most honorable job, but these videos are paying the bills of all these content creators.

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Sure, and then when they do not fix the perceived problems it swings left again.

A recent example, Trump was one of the few presidents to fail to win a second term.

I don’t mean the “leaving UK”, I mean the “blaming immigrants”. Ironically, he’s going to be an immigrant too!

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It’s the exact opposite of a fad (contrary to similar claims 8 years ago that the all-outraged would leave if Trump won).

While that’s nothing fundamentally new, the number of wealthy leaving has nonetheless massively increased in recent years.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-20/millionaires-continued-to-flee-post-brexit-britain-in-2022

It’s probably also due to the impact immigration has had on public services, infrastructure, housing etc.