Also an article in newspaper highlighting this change.
Not necessarily. Our son doesnāt have a UK birth certificate, despite being british (born abroad). In the UK, there is (still) a view that ID cards and mandatory ID documents is something that was introduced by the Nazis, and should never become a requirement, lest we lose the freedom we gained.
So you are perfectly fine in the UK never owning an ID document (as long as you donāt travel). Heck, you can even drive without carrying a driving license! You could tell the police that you will bring your DL to the police station within 7 days, as you donāt want to carry it with you. For things like banking and whatnot, you can often ID yourself with utility statements/billsā¦
You mean like the system we use here in Switzerland? I certainly donāt feel less free having a Swiss ID card or being obliged to register my residence.
This is the British paradox. The desire to have control of immigration, reduce crime etc etc but without mandatory ID documents. You cannot have your cake and eat it.
I donāt think itās THAT much of an issue with the general public, to be fair, but thereās a rampant right wing media that squeals and clutches its collective pearls as soon as anyone mentions āID cardsā.
I donāt think it is the right wing, it is more the libertarian side.
I think the right wing would probably in favour of it now and link having an ID card to getting benefits etc. to avoid āillegal immigrantsā from stealing from the NHS and welfare state.
I think the time is now right to introduce ID cards. But since the UK canāt do anything competently, they should just introduce driving licenses with no permissions on instead of trying to create something new.
Then they can require having this to claim welfare etc.
They had that case recently where they wanted to introduce mandatory digital ID but the usual round of Daily Express, Sun, Torygraph and Daily Fail lost its collective mind over it and the PM U-turned back to a level of making it non-mandatory.
To be fair, introducing ID to enable people to work is probably the last thing that should be on any ID list. Why add friction to people trying to earn a living and contribute to the economy? Maybe first focus on costs e.g. ID for people claiming welfare or using NHS and expanding from there.
Agree, and maybe thatās the key - get the marketing right and you will have people queuing up to get one⦠āItās your right to access the NHS, and not those pesky Johnny Forrins! Make sure you get one of these exclusive Health ID cardsā¦ā
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Thanks for the useful information peeps
I should have mentioned I was born over there but lost my UK passport 10years ago eventually,
Iāll apply for the ETA and put UK as second citizenship before the stated deadline and try that .
did anyone notice this? Does that mean I could travel per my circumstances without any further applications? The statement seems to the point.
I gave you that info way back in post #12 and it has-been reiterated several times since.
If you travel before February 25th then youāll be fine with just your Swiss passport. Beyond that youāll need a UK passport or certificate of entitlement, the latter is way more expensive than a passport.
okay I am sorry you had to repeat that,
thanks however
I was going to say it has been a failure of marketing by the policians.
If you previously had a British Passport, it should not be too difficult to get a new one! You should start that process asap for the future.
IIRC after 10 years itās the same process as applying for a first one - you have to provide all the documentation, not just the old passport / old passport details.