My last "car" was a Ram diesel 4x4. Sold it to a friend, still borrow it and drive it during vacations
But, is there an argument? Braking distance is shorter with dedicated winter tires. Last week we had 5 cm snow even in the foggy Swiss Plateau. Last weekend I drove the A12 with -9°C only at 20h00 near Bulle. Softer rubber is nice at those temps.
From a banal perspective, it's nice to have two nice sets of wheels and tires for the car. I never get bored of looking at the car: matte wheels for summer, shiny ones for winter.
hahahaha, I guess no surprise the car external air temp sensor is not a benchmarked scientific instrument.
Well, Plaffeien-Oberschrot is not Bulle no matter what the timeanddate website says. The closest weather station to Bulle is Marsens (Swiss weather office) and there are some funny 12°C oscillations in the area, with a minimum of -8°C. And the A12 goes at least 100-150m above Marsens.
Anyway, the purpose of the car sensor is to manage the cooling system valves, and make a warning to the driver when air temp is lower than 3°C. 2-3 degrees error on the safe side is not the worst for a car., it's not aviation.
- all-seasons/winter tiers (should have) lower pressure in winter - usualy you do not know about that as it's done during tier change - reverse principle apply to load carried .
- are softer and aggressive driving makes them go quickly in summer.
Just about every review shows that in winter the best tires are winter tires. They are also crap in the summer. Not so good in spring/autumn if temps above 5°.
All season/4 season are OK in winter, in most circumstances, but not as good as winter tires.
Summer tires are crap in winter and should be outlawed.
The Michelin CrossClimate2 recommended on this thread is a very, very good tire. And so are the companies summer and winter tires... so what do they recommend?
"If you drive less than twice a winter in the alps do we recommend all season tires". We all live in Switzerland . Its quite famous for being mountainous. I really dont get the discussion: If you live in the UK, get the all-seasons unless you drive a performance car and really want that last bit extra in summer. If you live in Switzerland, be prepared for winter... I have been stuck on the main highways when Zurich city saw 50 cm of snow in one day some years ago... I would want anything else than my pilot alpin tires on my car, and i dont see why people really want to save money on that...
Saving money is not the topic here. I am spending about 1500/month on a car, so it really is not about cost saving!!!
The topic is rather: How to achieve the safest driving conditions year-round? Without switching tyres 10-20 times a year and without unjustifiably high bias on a couple of days of heavy snow while ignoring several occasions of driving winter tyres in +7°C temperatures or driving summer tyres below 7°C.
I for myself had it quite a few times that I knew I had the wrong tyres on my car but Binelli did not have available appointments for switching the tyres around the time when temperatures drop below 7°C. The alternative was so switch early, which meant I drove with winter tyres in 15°C.
You change late Oct/early Nov to Winter tires and again in late March/early April to summer tires
If we want to take your exaggeration further, maybe we should take the summer tires when we go to Ticino in the winter, just in case temperature rises about 7° C
You don't really save money or spend money with 2 sets of tires apart from a little each year to change, if you don0t do it yourself, both sets of tires last twice as long !!
A set of tires costs about Chf 800-1'000.-- (for a car, wheelchair tires are more expensive i believe)
I think the point he was making is that in spring and fall there are days that are not optimal for either the specific winter/summer tire you have mounted in which case an All Season could be better.
I'd just add to the list a blanket/sleeping bag, some food and some water.
It's not that frequent but accidents that block the road for some hours do happen. We're already in the middle of December and I'm not carrying a sleeping bag, chocolate and 1L of water in my car...so, idiot me.
During these months, if you're waiting at a stoplight or a roundabout and the idiot behind did not stop on time and hit your rear fender, run to the car behind and check the tires.
If the mountain with snowflake symbol is not there, make sure the police notices this. The insurance of the other driver pays and the other driver may get the license frozen for some time!