Any insurance company of course will do its uttermost to advise their customers in regard to safety. In many places, any policeman is more popular than a SUVA-inspector
The first point here is the SIZE of groups. You already up to now needed a comprehensive liability coverage if you organized "Bus-Rundfahrten" and thelike. The second that the demands for a competent guiding have been stiffened over the decades. Look at football clubs. In the 1950ies, a coach of juniors (Fussball-Junioren) was in charge with everything from training the footballers to do accounting etc. In about 1960, a new law forced the FCs to split the function into the coach (Fussball-Trainer here) and the "Organizer" (Obmann here) . In the last few decades, small sport organisations were almost or totally pushed out of business by the results of accidents.
plus the consumption of hard pornography is now illegal and punishable with up to 6 years in prison. This isn't limited to child porn (where it makes sense) but also to certain other kinds of porn that are legal in pretty much every other country in the world, meaning that porn consumers will be incriminating themselves by surfing on pretty much any porn site on the planet now (willingly or not - background pop-ups on some sites might already land you in prison). The federal council wanted to have stuff like urination etc. eliminated from the list of hard porn, but the national council chose to keep it in.
Whhhhaaaaaaaaat?!?!
Care to quote a source?
If it goes into effect on January 1, 2014, it should be listed here , but I haven't been able to find any changes to the Strafgesetzbuch regarding pornography.
Oh well might as well get rid of the internet now.
Don't panic just yet LiB
It does on the surface of it seem a strange move for a country which by all accounts is relatively liberal in such things. Not to mention I would have also expected quite a bit more in the general news and press regarding it, given that it would end up affecting quite a large number of the male population with their "stashes". Basically I don't think there would be enough prisons to cope.
It would also be like putting a large number of worms back into a very small container
I'll look it up when I get back from lunch - the councils voted in favor of that in September.
I only found this one (not the greatest source): http://www.schnittberichte.com/news.php?ID=6073&M=14
Are you complaining about the porn ban or the inclusion of urinating in the ban... just checking...
Thanks for the link, now I know what you're talking about. The relevant information can be found here: Curia Vista - Geschäftsdatenbank
From a quick glance the changes regarding pornography seem to be:
the (currently existing) ban of porn involving human excreta (e.g. urination) is gone banned: pornography involving animals, violence, minors (including virtual porn depicting minors) consumption of banned pornography will become punishable The referendum deadline is Januar 16, 2014. Therefore it will probably go into effect later in 2014.
Looks like a reasonable law to me.
So, unless your tastes are extremely unsavory then it's, ahem, business as usual.
A) It is not yet a law but in the parliamentary procedure
http://www.nzz.ch/aktuell/schweiz/au...bar-1.17937444
B) it will affect people who INTENTIONALLY consume hard porno
C) it was approved by the Ständerat / Council of the States / Senate, but now will be in the Nationalrat / National Council / House of Representatives
D) the Federal Court in 2011 gave out a general judgment. THIS will remain valid whatever the two chambers of parliament decide. It is not a law but a juristisches Präjudiz / legal precedent
E) the many legal aspects mean that the law proposal in the end will land in the hands of the Federal Court (again)
F) the many complicated aspects also mean that a Federal Public Vote (of one kind or the other) becomes unavoidable
CONCLUSION: Not yet valid effective on 1-1-14
Ok, I think this is what is leading to the misunderstanding of the law. In fact as far as I can see the law has been relaxed in one area, but given teeth in another area.
In English Hard Porn and Soft Porn are both legal but describe the type of porn. Illegal porn in English is, well illegal
Hard porn (Harte Porn) in Switzerland is equal to illegal porn. Given the definitions in Swiss law of what is illegal then hard porn as what we would understand it to be in English exists without problem within the Swiss legal framework.
As you can see from the link I posted above (Curia Vista) it's been through both councils. The article you linked is almost a year old.
....... but is golden rain in or out?
yes, now it is
Looking at your link, I see a law-proposal which is rather mild and limited in its perspectives. Looks as if the Nationalrat reduced the original proposal to a law to guard children better than in the past, which is alright.
I expect THIS law to become active until 1-1-15, BUT it will become a matter for the Federal Court as soon as a rich "cunsumer" claims that he had NO intention to watch "virtual porn depicting minors". And this will lead to just another "Präjudiz-Urteil"
Ah, thanks for clarifying - I followed the debate back in September and thought that this is surely going to turn out to be yet another one of those Swiss special solutions that end up colliding with EU law etc. Seems like they've managed to find a decent consensus, though.
That can always happen and I'm guessing it'll be hard to prove whether you've watched something intentionally or not. In any case, it's high time that they've finally closed that loophole in the child pornography law, even if it means there'll be some "muster Prozesse" (test cases). On the other hand, if the law had been too strict in terms of "accidental" viewing of illegal materials, people would have wound up in prison who simply were too dumb to block pop-ups in their browser while browsing on movie download portals etc.
The other thing is the "violence" thing - is something real violence or just played?
Personally I'm not bothered by the new legislation as I'm neither into animals, violence nor minors, however I welcome that the truly ridiculous ban of pornography with human excreta is finally going to be abandoned. AFAIK Switzerland was the only country making that distinction which brought legal trouble to some innocent people who were caught having ordered porn from abroad without being aware that it contained illegal golden shower scenes.
From a more general POV I expect the government to protect children from sexual abuse but be done with it. Banning animals and (played) violence among adults has nothing to do with protecting children at all and therefore the legislature should have kept its hands off these issues. Banning poor or questionable taste is not the governments job and a waste of law enforcement resources to boot.