RAV Tax not deducted

Visas, Permits, Passports and Naturalization
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I have just found out that whilst on RAV for a few months, no tax was deducted from my RAV payments received. I am on a B-Permit, so I understand my tax should be deducted at source.

I contacted the Arbeitslossenkasse a few weeks ago to ask for a statement of my 2021 taxes (Exemplar der Steuererklärung beilegen), but I was told it would only be sent to me (automatically) in January 2022. I did not know that the tax wasn't deducted until today after clarification from my Tax Consultant.

I now face a huge tax bill to pay in just a few days. Surely I should have been told that it won't be deducted at source and that I would have to keep the tax provision aside? I will of course pay the tax due, I am just astounded at the situation.

Has anyone had a similar experience?

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Carineo hello

A friend was in the same situation. I am not sure why Arbeitslosenkasse does not deduct the tax, but you can see that they don't on the monthly statements. Hence I am surprised that you are surprised.

Edit: a huge tax bill for which year?

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Personal responsibility is held in high esteem in Switzerland, the authorities do not tell you what to do all the time, you need to work it out for yourself.

Sorry to hear of your dilemma but I'm sure they'll be more than happy to set up a payment plan with you.

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Your 2021 tax return should be completed by March 31 2022 and payment can be in 3 stages until December 2022 or all at once by September 30 - so nothing is due “in a few days”...

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That's fine so long as information is freely available and easily found.

Not on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying 'Beware of the Leopard.”.

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Well in this case it was, she was getting 70 or 80% of last salary, surely you can tell if tax has been deducted or not unless the amounts are small which in this case they seem not to be.

Switzerland you need to inform yourself or make the necessary noises, toilet paper is available but you need to use it yourself

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I'll bear that in mind when you come on here to complain about some arcane rule.

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Thanks for the replies, even the unhelpful and sarcastic ones.

It was my error to assume that the tax would have been deducted at source seeing I'm on a B-permit. I received an Exemplar der Steuererklärung beilegen for the period Oct-Dec 2021 from RAV, which I submitted to my Tax Consultant. Even then it was not brought to my attention that tax wasn't deducted for those three months, which of course would have been very helpful!

I mistook the Steuerbarer betrag as the amount paid as tax.

I was on RAV for a few months this year. Mid-year, we moved Kanton and my husband changed from a B-permit to a C-permit. We were requested to submit our 2021 tax information a good few weeks ago, as my husband is now taxed provisionally. It is all new and this was also my first and hopefully last time on RAV. It was all a bit upside down for a while I'm afraid.

Since my new employment, my tax is deducted at source for my salaried income, so I am certain that I won't have the same problem there.

Apologies to those who I have offended. I will most definitely continue to educate myself, and also educate my expat friends and colleagues going forward, so that they don't end up in the same situation.

@AbFab, for the record, I received a Steuerverwaltung pink payment slip with the amount due, dated 20.11.2021. This letter was sent to our Tax Consultants, who in turn mailed all our relevant tax forms to us. The payment date on the pink slip states zahlbar bis 20.12.2021 for "Rate 2021, zu bezahlende Akontorechnung CHF xxx" (rate 2021, invoice on account to be paid CHF xxx). That definitely does make it payable in the next few days! 9 working days to be exact.

@Biro

I fully accept personal responsibility, hence requesting the 2021 Exemplar from the Arbeitslossenkasse which they can not provide, seeking information and knowledge on the matter, and most importantly, paying my tax bill!

It just would have been nice if someone was kind enough to share this information as a heads-up, that's all. This information is not freely available.

One can only learn from this and hopefully help others that may face unemployment.

Have a good evening all.

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Or alternatively ask for a filing extension until Dec 21 and wait for the tax office to actually process the form and request payment a few months later. I’m told that even then they are willing to take payments in instalments. Should give the OP plenty of time to catch up. Generally speaking the tax offices here seem pretty relaxed and pragmatic so long as they expect to get their money eventually. Most important thing seems to be to communicate with them.

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As your husband is on a C, you should no longer be taxed at source.

Tom

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You get a monthly statement from the RAV every month detailing the calculations..... we can’t force people to read and check them. The norm is that people don’t have taxes deducted from their salary. The OP is the exception so I would not expect the RAV to go out of their way to accommodate the exceptions.

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Ever thought of going into marketing?