Resources for finding elementary school in Geneva?

OMG - that was always a wheeze, on those rare occasions where the teacher messed something up and some razor sharp wag pointed it out.

But as a teacher you should have the measure of all that stuff, though. OK, so teachers are human and can be tired, under the weather or whatever but you would hope that they have techniques for dealing with the different personalities in a class.

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More like a night-mare of a teacher.

I also find bizarre that some teachers can be so vindictive. How can you get upset with say a 10 years old?

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My son had a teacher like that at his school back in Belgium. My friends thought she was great but they had girls in the class.
I used to have a couple of the girls after school once a week so I got to see their schoolwork and the blatant favouring of the girls was patently obvious for all to see. The girls consistently received better marks than my son and his friend despite them having routinely made more mistakes than the boys.

I eventually went to the principal and showed her my evidence as some of these marks could have adversely affected their future. We moved to Switzerland soon afterwards so didn’t really get to see how things panned out.

There are bad teachers everywhere, it’s not something unique to Switzerland.

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Bad teachers or institutionalised misandry? It is curious that even in this small group there are multiple cases of discrimination against boys.

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And weird that it seems to be mostly (?) female teachers that do it.

OK, so it’s a teeny-tiny sample size so perhaps it could be coincidence but nonetheless - weird.

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Another son’s teacher liked the boys better.

It may have been why the boys called him pedo.

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There’s quite a few of these femininist teachers around. My son has also had two of them.

It’s a numbers game. 95% of the KiGa teachers(carers?) are female, and 83% in primary school.

With the ever increasing share of single Moms, many among the young have might never have a positive father figure, or man in general for that matter, in their lives. Add the misandry among administration and media, and it should be no suprise that you get ever more open misandry and discrimination of the boys among the female teachers.

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Phil: not sure how to quote on the new forum :stuck_out_tongue:

It’s also of little use since you have limited ability to select a school and within the school the quality of teaching can vary immensely with different classes/teachers and you have no influence over which class they get put into

This worried me a bit less, as I’m actively considering moving to find the best solution. If that means moving to another canton/gemeinde/etc to be in a different catchment area, so be it.

That said, without some form of ranking - no clue where to move to. Hence why I’ve started looking at private kindergartens

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Out of interest, why do you think private ones would be better?

With what would you be comparing them?

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Very true.

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But even if you get your desired school, you can’t choose the class/teacher within the school. We had the situation where there was a great teacher and an terrible teacher in the parallel class. Kids were same age, but it was the luck of the draw which one you got. And then you were stuck with them.

Well in our experience, our theory was that she was a relatively inexperienced teacher, the boys tend to tit about a bit more because they don’t mature as quickly as the girls and she was frustrated that she couldn’t deal with it.

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But even if you get your desired school, you can’t choose the class/teacher within the school. We had the situation where there was a great teacher and an terrible teacher in the parallel class. Kids were same age, but it was the luck of the draw which one you got. And then you were stuck with them.

Fair - but I can always move again :stuck_out_tongue: I’ve moved pretty much all my life, every 3 years or so… but also, if a school in general has better ratings than another, the likelihood of a bad teacher is lower. I hope.

Out of interest, why do you think private ones would be better?
With what would you be comparing them?

I think the main advantage of a private system is that as the “payer”, you have a bit more of a say. I’ve worked in private schools, and headmasters seemed to be willing to do just about anything to not lose a (paying) family. So I feel a bit more “in control” in my ability to address issues.

That being said, for older children, my main criteria would be average IB (MYP/EYP) scores + university entrance stats. e.g. what %age of kids went to what university. This is more crucial for us, as while I understand that if you stay in CH there are many paths to your intended career; when you then move abroad; this is not so much the case.

Ok, that’s different when they’re older - and probably more important for private schooling.

There are a few private schools here where the children aren’t academic, don’t really want to learn but their parents have very deep pockets.
It shouldn’t affect the quality of the teaching but may not give the classroom atmosphere which you would like your child to experience.

I think this is generally true, but this is Switzerland and expect different attitudes towards “the client”. One of our acquaintances here had a child in a private school for gifted children and had to move the child to a public school. (I don’t really know what happened, I think the kid was a bit “naughty”, anyway it was a matter of “problematic” behaviour in the 5th grade or so)
If you want this - let’s say more client oriented - attitude, you probably want to enrol your kids in one of the international (and very, very expensive) schools here.

Is that a matter of experience as a teacher, or knowing in general how to deal with boys (and men for that matter)? The inability to better deal with them (in general, not just this teacher) is probably one of multiple reasons why many teachers nowadays leave after just a few years.

Boys don’t tit about more because they mature less fast but because they simply need more physical activity, preferably on the rougher side (your notion reeks of female supremacy btw, turn it around and you could just as well say that girls are lazy). Let them run around before the first lesson and during the breaks and they’re able to sit still.

Hey, stereotypical night owl here. Running around before the first lesson is for morning people :sleeping:

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All kids run around before lessons and during breaks irrespective of their gender so that’s not the answer. Observe any school playground and you’ll see the kids all haring around. Probably best not to linger too long though or you’ll risk being accused of being a pervert.

There have been lots of studies done on this topic and it s a widely held belief that girls mature earlier than boys, it’s not something that Shirley just made up on the spot.

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That’s what they do anyway. Isn’t that what playgrounds are for?