RR Trent engines-Good to go? Not for me!

Is this in Switzerland?

I think hoppy's parents were trolls....actually, maybe hoppy is a troll.

Do the words WAYYY TOO MUCH INFORMATION have any meaning in your language???

Shorrick accused me of trolling I have proved that I am not. Then he brings up stuff that is off-subject. If I don't justify what I say or ignore him then I get called a troll because I can't back up what I post or that I am lying or that I am mad.......etc. All of which Shorrick has accused me of even going off subject on this and other threads

So I answer.

Before I get accused of giving too little info, now too much. Do you want me to answer the questions or not?

I never said that that these engines were around in 1979.

I don't claim to be anything that I am not. I google stuff and yes I have been around people who trouble-shoot on engines. But no-one told me about the Trent engines it was in the main news and since a lot of people on this forum fly, I thought they may like to know. Now it seems that a lot of you are not just passengers, actually in the aeronautical trade, Boeing, air stewards, pilots and you get angry with me for posting it. Why?

Either you believe what I am saying and don't like it. So you try discredit me. Well that hasn't worked either. Do you want me to answer accusations or not?

But no-one has effectively established that the Trent engine in question does not have a problem. To me it seems to be a sizeable problem

Lastly Shorrick you keep bringing up the JCB thing. Tough Luck if you got landed with JCB shares, I don't buy shares so I am not interested in you offloading them

Now I have to buy air tickets. I will do my best to make sure that I not flying with the questionable Trent engines. You want to feel happy flying with them, that's your prerogative.

Infact I ahev checked it was reported in most tof the major newspapers. It is still being reported here:

SIA stays cool over BA Boeing crash warning - 10 hours ago

There are currently 220 Boeing 777s with Rolls-Royce Trent 800 engines in operation with 11 airlines around the world.

These carriers are following the investigations with a degree of nervousness as any call to modify the fleet could affect their operations.

I am flying over a polar region, which causes problems for these engines, All I have to do is avoid 777's on the 22 airlines that carry them.

To me it makes as much sense as taking the times to choose a safe car or one that is reported to have problems.

It isn't that I have anything against RR my uncle was awarded an OBE while working on their engines.

Exactly hoppy, to each their own. But if you are that sensitive to problems I suggest that you do some really good research. Many aircraft have issues that have caused one or two incidents. Aircraft that have suffered incidents like the 777 with Trent engines are probably safer than others because they have been investigated with a fine tooth comb and pilots and engineers know of the problems and are also aware of how to deal with them when they arise.

When you fly you have to be comfortable and if you feel uneasy flying with the Trents, then by all means avoid them. I fly fairly regularly and for me it is not an issue. I guess that means that you and I won't be fighting over the last seat on a plane.

Safe travels whatever you fly with.

Guess what I said before didn't register. At altitude the temperatures are

constant, world-wide, Northern and Southern Hemispheres, above every

continent and every water mass. Polar region or not!

You will have to find another form of transportation

If that's true then they are having the same problems irrespective of their route?

It isn't what the so-called aviation experts say, they say it changes according to altitude. That would be interesting to know though if anyone has any evidence to the contrary.

My Uncle used to fly the Hindenbourg (the Belgian answer to the more famous German zeppelins), and frequently encountered problems in the tropics, when the heat would get to the engines, and prevent them from running properly.

After a while, my Uncle became accustomed to carrying a bullwhip with him on all flights, in order to encourage the engines to pedal faster. The problems with heat diminished significantly with this simple measure, although the engines did occasionally have a tendency to fall out of their saddles, resulting in their permanent loss in the ocean or forest. They were easily replaced upon reaching the zeppelin's destination, however, by the simple practice of offering them copious quantities of what my Uncle euphemistically described as 'aviation fuel'.

My Uncle was eventually forced to bail out of the Hindenbourg owing to an erupting pancreas, which had taken three years to explode, and had previously been diagnosed as an extratesticular pregnancy. Fortunately, he was found in the jungle, airlifted to Teheran, where he took part in the storming of the American embassy, before moving to Hanley where he invented the wheel.

There's a whole article on wikipedia about it, if you're interested...

Now now.....

Trust you but I enjoy the northern, oh, er,should I say west midland sense of humour.

No Hindenbergs but my mum did fly up the Nile to the UK on a flying boat.

Business insider advice:

Just don't fly 777s for the six months it will take Rolls to redesign the engines so they don't freeze and quit, and you'll be fine.

http://www.businessinsider.com/henry...edesign-2009-3

Boeing 777 safety measures 'insufficient' to prevent risk of disaster

Interim safety measures put in place on 220 airliners with an engine flaw are “insufficient” to prevent the risk of a fatal crash, according to the US air safety body.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle5902070.ece

Altitude or latitude, Hoppy?

Are you having problems reading the above articles?

Nope, thought maybe you were.

Are you a stewardess? :

I (hoppy) wrote: I am flying over a polar region, which causes problems for these engines, All I have to do is avoid 777's on the 22 airlines that carry them.

Scott posted this following my post (although I can't find where he posted it earlier)

Guess what I said before didn't register. At altitude the temperatures are constant, world-wide, Northern and Southern Hemispheres, above every continent and every water mass. Polar region or not! You will have to find another form of transportation.

Now if you look at the articles:

It explains what RR suggest pilots do:

The "mandatory flying procedures" involve flying lower (that means altitude) and, in what seems to be reminiscent of driving cars in the severe weather of the 1960s, to - in effect - "blip the throttle" every so often to blow through any small crystals that might form.There is also some concern that the NTSB may be playing politics, and criticising Rolls-Royce where it may have used more temperate language had the engines been produced by a US manufacturer.

Certainly, Rolls-Royce takes comfort from the AAIB report which makes it plain that the engine design meets or exceeds all requirements and points out that so-called "long-cold-high" ( that means altitude +latitude ) routes is an industry wide problem.

Basically they can't fly too high too long in colder regions.

Gee, I thought my days of teaching Earth Science to high schoolers were over, guess it may come in handy if I meet a stewardess who does'nt get it.

look if you still don't get it then I have friends who fly these, maybe they can explain it to you:

A little respect for Flight Attendants as they are now called please! After all they are the ones trained to save your a55 just in case (besides serving crappy food).

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