Running gadgets

The suggestion was referring back to my post I think!

The heart rate on these monitors can be very useful especially when "starting again". You set a maximum heart rate (was 150 for me) and when you go above it the watch beeps and you need to slow down a little to bring the heart rate under control. It helps stop over racing from trying to what you used to be able to do when running regularly.

Zymogen - I think its a great idea. I have a Garmin Forerunner (ditched the Suunto as it was utter shite) and I'm very happy with it

The important thing for me about it isn't data or geeky speed fetishism per se, but that you can see improvement. For my favourite Sunday morning run by the lake, I can see on the screen what I feel in my legs - how much better or worse I did than before. Thats an important part of keeping the shoes out of the cupboard

What everyone else has said - get a Garmin Forerunner. I've had a 205 for years, it's dead simple, and it really helps you reach your distance goals (something I used to have a problem with). They have different versions (305, 405, etc) depending on the features and price point you're looking for.

I have a 60. Simple to use, not GPS, but still have ANT tech, so can sync with garmin connect etc.

Get one of the lower end Garmin Forerunners - they come in under 200 CHF, or maybe you could get an older one off a friend just to try it out. I was a recreational runner until I received one of these gadgets as a gift last year, and I realized their usefulness primarily to keep myself honest in terms of distances actually run, and giving a measuring stick which I could use to push myself.

Understood that you don't want to be too serious a runner, but you'd be surprised at what an honest measure of yourself will do to your psyche in terms of training. I really got to know my body and what I was capable of after using one of these gadgets for a year, and was able to improve dramatically because of it.

Had a Garmin 405, used it for a couple of years, was fun to put all the red lines onto Google Earth and see my world domination advancing. It never helped make me a better runner though, it just makes you a statistician.

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Here's a story from Sunday. Went deep snow running with a pal up at around 1200 meters on the border of ZG, ZH & SZ in the woods way above Einsiedeln. Two hours of blasting the trails, stopping to catch our breath after some steep ascents, following some deer trails that cut diagonally through the pines. Tripping over in deep snow as the tree roots were hidden under the freshly fallen snow; white out and branches, accelerating through deep drops with nothing to stop the momentum.

Distance run = no idea

Vertical ascent = no clue

Fun factor = Priceless

Physical challenge = Awesome

No GPS involved, just a decent pair of Inov8 shoes and addictive enthusiasm.

I started off with an ipod nano, which works also on this nike+ system. While it did not have GPS but measured distannce, average pace, etc by connecting wirelessly to a small pod in my shoe. This was mostly enough for me, as mostly I would run along, listen to music and occasionally check my running stats.

I also tried the nike+ app on the iphone but for my tastes it was a bit flaky.

Eventually I have now moved to the Nike+ GPS sports watch. I am personally very happy with this indeed, and they just updated the firmware to add some functionality, improve other functionality, and increase GPS accuracy.

With the watch, you can use GPS, or both GPS and the little shoe pod (which fits into a special compartment on most nike running shoes (if you look on the sole and it says nike+ you are good) for improved accuracy or continued stats when you lose GPS (like when running through a tunnel or in a gym).

What I particularly like about nike+ is that you can programme challenges for yourself on your nike+ website profile, and then download them to your calendar. In this way you can set a programme to run a 5K, up to a marathon or other challenges. For me it provides more than enough info: time, distance, pace, avg pace, etc etc. If you are hardcore about stats the Garmins may appease you more, but for me Im more than good with the Nike.

I agree that a watch (or other running tool) isnt vital, but i certainly like to have it. Without it, there is pretty much no way I would have known I have ran more than 2000 km in the last few years for example.

I also agree that building variety into ones routes is a great way to keep up the motivation.

I've started using Nike+ with the sensor in the shoe thingy. It's great and gives you all the details you need while you run and also when you upload them to the Nike+ website. Would recommend it with the ipod nano which is pretty light and you can just clip it on. Worth a try in my opinion!

On that positive note....

I have mates that are addicted to their Garmin

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It tracks your run and you can upload it to your 'puta and a whole lot of other wizz-bang fancy fandangle stuff.

I can see the attraction, and would get me one too if... i felt i needed it(?)

Strangely, I prefer the simpler things in life- a polar, just for heart-rate- to make sure I am not going at it too hard.

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I have a basic GPS band (which is useless in the woods and hardly used) and the Nike iPod gizmo - which again - I used a bit.

I generally check a map and measure distance from there - and approximate height gain.

The best runs are always those that you just run for the hell of it - go places you haven't been - safe in the knowledge you can always run back again.

Boxing Day - for example - a few friends ran up my "usual" trail up the side of a mountain - 4km and 400m of climb - ouch. We looped up further trying to find a hiking path - we couldn't. We ended up running up a steep ski-slope - then just to run down another longer steep slope!

We then went hunting for another path - but it was covered in 30cm of snow - which was just too extreme for us that day. We eventually ran down another track - covered pretty much all in ice.

It was great fun - and we had clocked well over 90mins without thinking.

Running should be fun!!

I'm with Dodgyken on this one - friends and a map are the best motivators, although I would also add the seasons/nature/countryside (whatever you want to call it).

I've been running for years and the only time I've become demotivated is when I have seriously tried to improve my speed! Rather than having a relaxing run, I've spent the time clock watching.

So my recommendation to maintain a lifestyle change, ie. a running habit that lasts for years rather than just for January, is get a 1:25,000 map, a flower/bird recognition book and friends who don't mind getting lost on a run.

I still don't get your point. You act as if fun and wearing a gps are somehow mutually exclusive. I've had my full day snowy January runs through the Oberland, and while the fun factor was just as priceless and the physical challenge was equally awesome, I got the added benefit and mental boost of seeing that I ran 40k+ with 4000m of gain.

I'm glad you enjoy your GPS free runs with nothing but your enthusiasm and your trusty Inov8TM shoes. I, on the other hand, think what brand of shoes someone is wearing are pretty irrelevant as long as they're having fun, whereas they're obviously pretty important to you. You see where I'm going with this?

Sure, each to their own. I'm not disputing any of the GPS stuff. It's just not the total motivator that many are keen to present. The motivation has to be the desire to live the great outdoors and feel alive as you pace ever forwards.

So, when are you joining us for a run in the Züri Oberland?

My two pennies worth would be to find a friend, or group, to run with. If you commit to meeting someone for a run, then it will provide all the motivation that you need, especially on the colder and darker evenings. Sometimes you will be stronger runner and sometimes not, but you will push one another and progress, without needing to be unfriendly, competitive and racing. Hopefully this will provide you with all the discipline to run and keep running when otherwise you would have shelved your shoes and it is these occasions when the real progress is made.

Gadgets and gizmos are a matter of personal opinion. Most of the time they are beyond me. However, once upon a time in a thinner life I used just a simple heart rate monitor. I have little care for how far, how fast, or how long I have run. But it was useful on those occasions that I felt I was off the pace, to check to see whether I was jaded and already pushing myself sufficiently hard, or whether it was my mind already willing myself to the pub for a hard earned curry and a couple of pints.

If you are the type of person that likes to share tales and adventures via social media, then it would be a great idea. I would rather take a camera though and record the views from some of wonderful runs that there are in this part of the world.

Happy running

Mike

This has been exactly my experience as well with the Nike+ watch. Couldn't have said it better. I do have friends with the Garmin 205 and 305 and they swear its more reliable and more professional but you did say you want a gadget the the Nike+ is way cooler

One of the earlier posts mentioned borrowing one from a friend. That's a great idea.

You don't need gadgets as a motivator to get out of the house.

Get yourself some kids. You won't get a lie-in anyway so rather than playing snap or doing a jigsaw puzzle at 6.00am on a Saturday morning, you could set off on a run and soon be running through a forest glade in the snow with a couple of deer a stone's throw away and total silence.

Of course, you still get to the the puzzles and change the nappies on Sunday morning while your wife gets a lie-in.

When I do go on a long runs, I take:

A watch.

A map.

A camera.

I'll see you on the 28th then - http://www.untamedadventure.com/Crux.aspx

Kids????

I think I try other options first. A sport watch requires less commitment.

Did it last year.

It was fun, but there was a bit too much snow. I've been meaning to do the same route in better weather but I've since moved a bit further away, and family life makes it difficult to find the time for what is essentially a full day of running.