Hallo Everyone and I am pleased to have found this forum.
I will dive straight in about my situation.
I look after my brother who is UK and Swiss nationality, like myself.
After my brother received his UK and Swiss Pension, the KVG stopped his and my S1 entitlement.
The KVG stated that because my brother’s retirement pension was activated, the UK S! no longer applied.
Contrary to this I see that the UK and Swiss withdrawal agreement says I am still entitled to an S1. I am therefore starting to contact the S1 overseas department in the UK. I hope the KVG are not going to appose it, but if they do I will fight it as there is an appeal proceedure, if the KVG provide a written refusal letter which can be legally activated on within 30 days. OK, if others are interested in this or have good advise I am here as any info or support is always a good thing.
Maybe you can give a few more details and clarifications. UK and Swiss pensions are received at different times, can you say what happened at each stage of receiving?
Can you give excerpts of the relevant documents which you use to support your position.
Good luck. Note that my experience in Switzerland is that deadlines are important so try not to miss any. Was the communication given to you already written? I’m wondering if the clock has already started.
@Fatmanfilms: I think you were interested in impact of different pension dates. From the wording, it sounds like a trigger was when both UK and Swiss pension were received.
I think (hope) that this based on the longest pension contributions, I have 20 or possibly 21 years where I paid Swiss contributions & 35 years I paid UK contributions. I am eligible for a reduced Swiss pension from age 63 & a UK pension from aged 67. I was hoping I could just pay Swiss medical insurance for 4 years. I think this is what’s happening in the OP’s case. I live in the EU & won’t get a pension from my country of residence.
I couldn’t remember which is received first: Swiss or UK. If UK, then maybe the change was triggered because that’s when the Swiss process normally runs?
Maybe a silly question, but what does the S1 have to do with you getting your pensions? If you’re entitled to healthcare via the S1 why would getting your pensions cancel that out?
My guess is that as soon as your brother activates his Swiss pension, Switzerland becomes the competent state for healthcare coverage. This can terminate the previous S1 issued by the UK, since now he is drawing from the Swiss system.
This is purely a guess, as under EU Regulation 883/2004 (which Switzerland still follows for some weird reason for bilateral agreements with the UK), the primary country paying the pension becomes responsible for health insurance coordination.
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