Simple: One single rule (nearly) no exceptions.
Easier: Your system needs an additional data base. At the moment it is anonymous (payment), and offenders are not registered.
Fairer: The out of busy hours rule will give a fair amount of interpretation and legal battles. The one with the better lawyer will not pay.
All that for a one time discount of CHF 40 ?
It is a little no secret which the authorities don't want you to know about.
I figured it out and I just know that so many of you will find it useful in ensuring you won't have to pay this stealth tax.
Don't drive faster than the limit.
It's not "for 40CHF", but to have a system where a possible minor accident (wrong speed for a few secs) can be turned into a warning and yet offer the possibility to behave well for a long period.
Fair enough if you find the current system fair and good.
I don't like sanctions and repressive system, especially when it's easily possible to "educate road users" while still accepting minor mistakes, a system a bit more...human.
But yeah it's not about "only 40 chf" is about having unfair rules and creating "criminals" or "offenders" for minor things. What kind of society is that?
But let's not be blind, it's all about collecting money as the other said, and I think a better society should be about something else than finding funds for paying the "Syndic"'s massive salary. It should be about citizen and not punishing decent citizen for *almost* nothing, or at least giving them a chance to behave and clean their minor offense by proving it was just an accident.
Oh and are we really debating about a few KM extra? Because I have a medium car, not a BWM or a fast powerful car- a tiny move on my feet i'm already 10KM faster- Yes it's not an excuse for speeding, but it's very easy, a few centimeter move and you're already an offender- And usually my eyes are on the road looking everywhere, not always on the speed meter.
PS2: My driving method is working fine because I never had any accident and only 1 speeding fine in my life. I'm still upset about it by the way! It was a trap, not a preventive camera.
Diagree. The cameras wouldn't be such cash cows if people actually followed the speed limit. No one at the Gemeinde is forcing you to blaze past the camera and get flashed.
Exactly. And stop coming on here to complain about your fines.
Well, it could be a complain but a number of people (including me) get to learn how stuff works in Switzerland. And what is the purpose of the complains corner in the EF anyway!
Number of times flashed by camera=some; total amount of fines incurred=
Number of times car checked by police=0 ; possible fine for having a camera warning app < (above).
Make of that what you will.
Makes me feel better about it.
Oh and I speed but am careful to not get caught.
My point was, how much can we trust the accuracy of the GPS?
- firstly, I would think there must be a slight time lag;
- secondly, (this is really for the pedants) does curvature of the earth make any difference? With the satellites a hundred or so miles above the earth, they must track the vehicle, from A to B, as a straight line (from so high up), to calculate speed, but because of curvature, actual distance covered will be more than a straight line, which could also lead to a higher actual speed than the GPS indicates.
This difference is probably minimal, but at higher autobahn speeds, which inaccuracy is going to be greater?
Just a thought
No lag and actually quite precise.
As a consequence, the speed indicated on your GPS can be accurate only when it is constant. If you are accelerating or slowing down, the GPS speed indication always lags. But, say, at a steady speed on an Autobahn GPS definitely is more accurate than any normal speedometer because it's pure math. No mechanics with friction, bearing tolerances and other peculiarities involved.
After moving to CH did I get some 40 CHF fine every few months. Here is a secret: 1 kmh is not really making the difference, being an alert driver is. Swiss people are educated to drive around staring at their speedo to make sure they are not speeding. Looking out if there are kids would be much safer. That's why pretty much all other countries I know of are more generous with the limits and typically give you an error margin of 10: five for their sensor and five for you.
That cultural difference is the actual topic, not if speeding is bad. I think we all agree on that.
Remember these are limits - not guidelines to which you should try and adhere. (Unless you are in Italy at which point they normally mean minimum speed )
The assumption is that all other conditions are equal and all drivers are equal - that means in setting a speed limit of 30kmh it is decided that is the maximum speed allowed to ensure that the majority of drivers can avoid an accident. 30kmh zones provide priority to pedestrians and are in built up areas where the number of hazards increases.
Society can't have a one rule one and another for another approach when it comes to speeding. No matter how arbitrary or mis-judged we believe speed limits are, or the enforcement of them is, the limits are the limits and we have to accept the consequences of breaking them.
You can have 40 years driving experience without a single traffic infringement but it takes just one moment of not paying enough attention and your and/or somebody else's life changes.
I am not condemning anyone who speeds. I am highlighting that society's attitude to speeding is at odds to society's view on pretty much every other type of law breaking.
6km on 30km is a massive 20%, so yes, blazing was probably the right word.
Tom