Swiss vs French croissants

Croissant... French origin? You for real?

Even better, forget the "Gipfeli" (croissants) and revert to "Weggli", "Semmeli" and "Büürli"

Croissants aren't Swiss or French.. they're Austrian.

Nevertheless the French make the best ones.. by far

There's nothing as delicious as a basket full of warm croissants and a cup of strong black coffee.. on a week-end in Paris

Bakeries ARE allowed to bake on Sunday, and those who do are even allowed to have their shops open on Sunday morning, to be able to sell their "Zöpfe" and other stuff. I here refer to Cantons of Zurich and others around Zurich.

It depends on the individual bakery. People who know a bakery with good "Gipfeli" will travel around for 20kms to get these products. It is similar with other bakery products. I know a chap who each Sunday morning travels from Uster to Zürich HB to get "his" Zopf at Stocker While the Migros Bakery produces the best "Fasnachts-Chüechli" available.

The Austrians had no time for Gipfel, as they concentrate onto

MOZARTKUGELN

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Oh quite delicious, I do agree.. but the legend has it that the croissant was invented in the 17th century in Vienna.. before Mozart

Certainly true, but the Austrians were right to leave the Gipfel to the French and work on the Mozartkugeln instead of leave the Mozartkugeln to the French and stay with the Gipfel

There is a massive difference between croissants & gipfeli - not just texture, but taste as well.

Lots of different gipfeli about as well, I've tried about six different varieties. Don't really like them, but the butter variety's edible (and most like a croissant).

I have had "croissants" in France, in places from Narbonne to Dinard, and also in centralised France it depends on the local baker. To say it again, I find most Gipfeli and Croissants boring. Both Switzerland and France have much better bakery products on offer. As I said before, good Weggli, Büürli, Semmeli, and Parisian Baguettes (sometimes in some places also available here, but most Baguettes here are baked sandstorms) always are a better option than the Gipfeli/croissants -- just Sahel Storms)

Not to forget the "Tessinerli" With Fleischchaess und Tomi Senf

I am a nuss gipfel man ,anything with nuts . Uhhh wait a sec ,almost

Agreed on the gipfeli being 'boring', but croissants are awesome - hot & fresh, ripped open, with a chunk of butter dropped inside to melt ... yum!!

Zopf is also a nice choice for bread ... is my wife correct in saying that's "traditionally" a bread for Sunday? Or can I continue eating it on any day without any qualms?

Yes, she is correct. As my Swiss father-in-law always tells me "Sunday morning without Zopf is not Sunday morning" :-)

I love Zopf... especially baking it.

Indeed.

And some other good stuff.

Tom

Here too.

I've never liked Zoepf, though.

Tom

All three are sold here out west but under different names. I wish they use the original Swiss German. A semmeli is simply called a "ballon" (literally a ball). They are often used as the bread for sandwiches, popular for lunch.

But the King for petit déjeuner will always remain a croissant (from a good baker in France)!

Actually , and i know its a bit trivial pursuitish, but croissant came from Turkey (hence their shape) They were made by the Turkish (Ottoman army) during its campaign in Austria as an easy food for the soldiers. G

The crescent shape of the croissant (crescent = English, croissant = the same in French) was documented in Austria already in the 12th century, in other words, about 500 years before said Turkish campaign into Austria.

Besides that, I very much doubt that an army would want the bakers to go through all the additional work to make croissants instead of simple, decent loafs.

well there you go, i wouldnt have got my cheese would i!