Swiss vs French croissants

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Is that a cheer for the "gipfeli" vote?

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Migros in enge sell freshly baked French style Croissants now. Heavy, buttery ans delicious. So much better than the dry Swiss gibfeli. Yay!

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My topic!!!

I was getting crazy to find some french or italian style brioche in Zurich, trying all the passticerie around but at the end I let it go

There are some really not bad brioche you can get, but it never will taste the same

Anyway, paris is just 3,5 hour from zuri, if you want real french style breakfast

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As mentioned, the Gipfeli are the German version of the French Croissant.

I believe the attitude encountered when ordering a croissant in an otherwise German shop stems from a self-confidence issue the Germans in general seem to have when being compared to their non-German speaking neighbors. I find it true for most things that run deep and help define a culture, like their food.

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Well, try some good Weggli, Semmeli or Büürli and save the 7 hours plus the fare or at the weekend buy a Zopf

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I was in southern Germany recently (Black Forest) and in the morning entered a bakery and asked for "Brötchen". The salesperson looked at me blankly. "Ach, Semmel" she replied.

Anyhow on the subject of croissants I agree, they are better in France, probably because of the dough, the water, the butter...Gnädingers at Schaffhauser are indeed the best Zurich ones. But not open Sundays.

For baguettes: same problem, much better in France, but try Pain Quotidien at Römerhof - chewy but good.

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I agree that croissants taste better in France/in the French speaking part of Switzerland.

In the German speaking part they normally serve the "Gipfeli" which is something else and cannot be compared to a real croissant. They are smaller and consist of a different dough.

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swiss food is disgusting

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They do have almond croissants in the German part - mandel-gipfeli. My favorite kind

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Oh, Wollishofener, how can you recommend Zopf to someone yearning for a real croissant? I think you have to have grown up with Zopf to like it - it's a soft, white bread that tastes very slightly sweet. I find it rather unpleasant but of course, tastes differ. Most of my friends here are crazy about it.

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That's pretty much how continental Europeans describe English bread. Wolli should be right, then.

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lol! I do think the Zopf is sweeter. And the thought of having a lovely cheese and pickle sandwich made with Zopf? Ugh!

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Most "Zöpfe/Züpfen" you get around Zürich are mediocre at best. But when you ever get to the Emmental, try a Zopf produced there ! It beats the Croissant Français by miles. One of the best bakery products anywhere

Or try a really good Gugelhopf in Schaffhausen which is also something superb

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You're comparing apples and oranges here. I do appreciate a good Croissant as well as a good Zopf but besides coming from a bakery it's two entirely different things.

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To MISuse Zopf for sandwiches is close to high treason

You eat Zopf either just as it is or with butter or with butter and jam/marmelade. And drink some tea or some wine beside your Zopf

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I strongly disagree. Zopf makes very nice sandwiches with salami and some butter (no pickles!) or with prosciutto dolce (ham), e.g. Parma, San Daniele, San Pietro, etc.

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Alright, with Salami and Prosciutto it is acceptable, but in that case I am in favour of some Beleiti Brötli

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And I would NOT combine Zopf

with cheese in the form of Sandwiches or Canapés

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Hi All,

For those interested in French-style croissants, Oh! sweetest thing has just opened a new cafe in Kalkbreite, Zurich—serving buttery croissants, including pain au chocolat and pain au raisin.

Cheers,

Chris

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Hello! You can easily find croissants aux amandes in Geneva and they are really not bad! You can find them even in the bakery of Cornavin Gare

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True! One of my favourites.

I'll put in a word at Oh! sweetest thing .

By the way, opening party tomorrow at the cafe!