Swiss wine - suggestions

As you are in Zürich go to Landolt Weine on Brandschenkestrasse and purchase some Schiterberger Himmelsleiteri

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the fourth bottle is a Stadtzürcher Blauburgunder

http://www.landolt-weine.ch/shop/tra...en.php?tscd=BL

they also have the wine from the Enge-Bürgli vineyard, and are the only ones having a vineyard so close to the city-centre

but also the Räuschling

a very charming white wine

BUT you might also visit Zweifel Weine in Zürich Höngg who have some remarkable Höngger Weine and their place in Höngg is very nice and always offers opportunities to sample the wines !

It is a shame that the OP does not appear to be around to appreciate the advice you are all providing. They haven't posted since the first post, and haven't been online since two days after that.

Perhaps they are in a drunken stupor from all the different wines

Skip al wines coming from german part of switzerland,I also would avoid wines from Ticino. Go for Waadt, lac leman and Neuenburg area also valaise. If you can find go for an 2006 red wine.

, in my opinion the price for redwines should not be greater than 25-27Sfr. per bottle.

For whites no more than Fr.15-20.-

if you are on a budget and want to spend wise get whines from Portugal, Spain or Chile, it is far much better than the swiss wine which is overpriced anyway. There are also some great wines from Sicilly but i do have some doubts with food safety with italian products.

There are quite a few choices. I guess 100chf is the total price, but still you have a few choices.

I'd stir away from the coop and denners - they stock the "standard" bottles (they sell quantities, and vinyards in Switzerland typically have small productions). Where do you live?

Wines from Valais are lovely, and there are also a few good whites from the area of Vaud.

Try http://www.gregor-kuonen.ch/ , it is a quite large producer, but has good quality.

I can suggest for the whites: Nuit Blanche. Hermitage, Petite Arvine; the Lafnetscha is interesting but sweet.

Among the reds: Humagne is great - an antique vine, typical of Valais, lots of body. Cornalin is also very yummy.

You can place an order online, Kuonen also ships.

I have other addresses, but it may take more time, and most of the good stuff is on reservation only... I have mine ordered but you have to think of next year...

Had a look at their online shop - am I correct in assuming that I can only order 12 bottles at a time?

Thx

Paul

LOL - what's wrong with ticinese wines??

I do agree that swiss wines tend to be expensive, but as you know CH is an expensive country in itself - land included - so it shouldn't come as a surprise, right?

P.

Total BS, sorry. I assume you don't have a clue.

Too close to Italy, methinks. Do a forum search for "mafia germs"...

Good point Paul. However, they also have gift boxes... http://www.i2k.ch/clients/gkuonen/fr...kat.asp?KID=58

They can be a nice solution. Some are more expensive than 100.-, but it can be a way to sample a whole range of different tastes.

Sorry I haven't noticed that limitation...

It is true that Ticino has some wonderful merlots and pinots. I just know better Valais.

Kindly don't subject us to your opinion, Tom73.

A white merlot is a lovely wine from the Tessin and strangely enough, I haven't died from drinking it yet......

Nahh...don't worry about the price limitation. I was egoistically thinking for myself

So... Other 2 volunteers to share/split a 12er of something good & tasty?? Yes...? :-)

(pls forgive the involuntary thread hijiacking)

Paul

This one is excellent - although does seem to be going up in price. I have a few bottles in the cellar.

We also like the Manfried Meier stuff from Zizers - as well as the Obrecht Riesling Sylvaner. The Zurich stuff never really does it for us.

Remember, there is the Wümmetfäscht in Höngg end of october. Bad music, not really good wine but nice atmosphere.

In case of the Romandie wines, forget about the Valais/Wallis wines and keep to those from Geneva, Vaud/Waadtland and Neuchâtel/Neuenburg.

Good wines are available from the Bündner Herrschaft (north of Chur), from places like Maienfeld, Malans and Jenins.

Back to the Romandie, in case of Vaud give preference to those of the Lavaux over the La Côte. Because it is the same quality but generally lower prices

The problem about Ticinese wines is that those Ticino Merlots either are expensive if good, or a bit on the boring side if not expensive. The reason for this is that most Ticinese winegrowers for many decades were careless and did not feel like being up to the Italian competition. The change started about a decade ago, but if you see how long a winegrower needs to bring a new plantation up to commercial standards, it is obvious that things may look different in a few years time

While the average quality of the wines on offer may be mediocre, some wines they offer there are absolutely excellent. And these are not really the expensive ones.

Not close enough to Italy. The Italians started improvements to their wines in the 1970ies, and the results are remarkable. Wines from Sicily, for instance from around Etna, are clearly excellent stuff. But also the Primitivi and Montepulciani have made tremendous advances in quality and are still acceptable pricewise. In the Toscana, the Chianti still is as good as it was in the 50ies, 60ies and 70ies, with the stuff from the Firenze-Siena area generally rather a bit better than the stuff from the coastal Toscana.

I might as well mention that I know the president of the Ticinese winegrowers.

Those decades ended in the 80s, with the boom of the financial industry - many in the industry retired with their golden parachutes and started their own wine "hobby".

Once upon a time you would go to a restaurant and have a selection of basically 4-5 decent Merlots. Now it's more like 4 pages of stuff.... Trapletti, Zanini, Cormano, Valsangiacomo, Gialdi, etc etc stuf that we can easily gift for Christmas to our italian clients and colleagues and still make a "bella figura" (albeit at a much higher price than comparable italian labels, I agree).

The sicilian stuff used to be un-drinkable...the much favoured Nero D'Avola used to be a soupy, 15°, grape-juice... it would stain your glass and give you an immediate migraine (so says my friend and wine dealer Giuseppe de Toma in Como - BTW he has a beutiful trattoria called Gallo Nero in the old center of town), and so other prized wines.

Again, what made the difference is the combination of fresh capital and french tradition...

Ciao

Paul

I don't have doubts about the professional qualifications of your friend, but I think that he as most people from Lombardy and Piemonte and even areas like Liguria, Emilia Romagna and Toscana regards everything south of Rome as "Africa". I think, the jokes about this are made ....................

The fendant from Varen is super tasty for a nice white!