Even with a lot of content, I don't see much success there. Older movies won't be remastered yet again to gain resolution (and if they will, difference compared to blu ray will be minor).
Doubling the resolution at current situation doesn't bring same jump in quality as SD -> HD. Bending the screen is again theoretically nice but in reality not that great - usually there are more people viewing, scattered all over the room.
I don't feel the need to scroll with my head over screen that's too big.
For me, I have 42" 1080p panasonic plasma viewed from cca 2m, and for most content, I opt for 720p content, it's just good enough. In fact, after initial wow effect, 720p vs 1080p makes no difference in intensity of experience, it's content that matters. With LCD the difference in quality 720p vs 1080p might be bigger.
So, the only thing that could save this technology from fail will probably be, as usually, porn
What you need is 8K Super Hi-Vision, which offers 16x the resolution of HDTV (
http://www.nhk.or.jp/8k/index_e.html ) and 22.2 channel sound.
4K is simply a stop-gap measure, you might as well just watch TV on your iPad...
Many movies releases in 1080p will be remastered to 4k, as movies have been shot in 4k since 2011, and are then downscaled to 1080p for Blu-Ray.
You will not see any difference between 1080p and 4k on a 42" Plasma... just as you will barely see any difference between 720p and 1080p on such a small TV. However, when the sizes reach 55" and above, optimally 65" or so, then you will notice a LOT of extra detail. Just go to Media markt and look at one of the 4k demo reels they have on, the extra fine detail you can see due to the increased resolution in the cityscapes is incredible vs standard 1080p content.
There is no way 4k is going to "fail", it is simply the next standard of video format, and it will become standard. Of course, if luddites like yourself are still happy with 720 on a 42" screen then yes, chances are you won't notice anything new.
I agree.
I think it's a bit early to be buying one though
The level of detail on a 4K TV is mindblowing. I was lucky enough to visit Sony's Tokyo store in late 2012 when they had 4K demos on display, including Gran Turismo playable in 4K with 4 PS3s running concurrently. The showed a video of a seaside town in 4K and it was pretty much like being there.
Agreed it is far to early to get into 4K unless you have a lot of money to waste.
That being said, seeing the demos in Mediamarkt really blew my mind, and now my brain has registered and the 1080 screens look like crap. Can't wait to get more content avaiable to make the purchase worthwhile.
I game on 1200 vert., but unfortunately 3D gaming is limited at 1080--and it's almost not worth it as your eyes and brain get accustomed to the higher quailty. Defintely would love to check out 4K or 8K gaming, but the screen and GPU costs are waay out of my budget.
Ditto, I will be "making do" with my current sets until later in the year when the new HDMI standard is in production.
Comments on OLED vs. 4K?
Current OLED TVs in CH are max. 55" with the 65" models coming out later this year. Pricing of the TVs seems to be 50% more than the 4K.
They normally have one 55" model (LG) on demo at MediaMarkt
OLED isn't "vs 4k". 4k is just a picture format resolution. You mean OLED vs LED.
OLED's are technically better, but much more expensive.
So if I feed HD content to an OLED, I have better quality than regular LED (and Plasma?). That I understand.
If I feed 4k content (coming soon?) to an OLED (which i assume is officially just HD), do I get better/same/worse "quality" than a 4K of equal size?
I think you need to do some reading up on the various advantages and disadvantages of each technology...
OLED vs LED... http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-th...nology/#!GHGMp
4K Explained... http://www.cnet.com/news/what-is-4k-...ion-explained/
If you feed 4k into a 1080p set it won't be any better than feeding 1080p into a 1080p set.
4k is 4 times the quality of 2k, not double.
2 meters is far to far from a 42 inch screen if you want to see the benefit of 4k, it's a little to far for 1920 x 1080 as you have observed!
Movies shot in 35mm film can be rescanned at 4k , however don't expect any film with much visual effects to be remade, the same for movies shot in HD.
4k fed into an HD monitor will only look as good as the converter, same for uprzzing. Any conversion is a conversion .........
Why would they have to be remastered when originally shot in 4k? Don't they keep the original version in which the movie was shot?
Some valid points. Some invalid - my sight is OK and I can clearly see a difference in sharp videos 720p vs 1080p from 2m, what I meant to say is that this additional sharpness doesn't contribute to my overall experience from movie/tv show regardless of genre.
There were movies produced before 2011, ya know?
It makes maybe more sense for games and sports, but I don't do neither on TV anymore, real life alternatives are just much more fun
Of course this is next standard, and plain old 1080p sets will not be produced anymore after certain point, and these sets will cost same/less than current 1080p ones... what I meant was, not many people apart from tech geeks will find enough reasons to buy new >60" TV instead of their 40-50" ones if it still works.
And it's quite a big piece of furniture to be placed somewhere too
Only a handful of films are shot at 4k or above, however usually the post production was done at 2k. To remaster could cost as much as the original film cost to make, however that does not stop people talking & drinking cool aid
It was just a badly written sentence on my part. What I obviously meant was that some (not too many most likely) modern movies currently out in 1080p, can be released in 4k, as that's what they were shot in before then being downscaled to 1080p.
Not obviously or I wouldn't have asked the question . I don't really get this remastering thing.
If they drank the cool aid they wouldn't have to bother with the remastering
I was gonna ask something like this .. I have a 55inch Samsung 1080 something or other on the wall.
But we sit probably 5 or 6 meters away. Would it really matter to me if i have 4k or 10k or plasma.. Maybe a projector
(yeah we could sit closer but hey)
For the very occasional stuff we watch on TV, I think i'll wait for some real innovation like smelly-vision.