ultrasound...

Family, Education, Health and Pets
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Please be clear that the test you're referring to is *not* a diagnostic test. Rather, it's a risk assessment. They can be wrong and it simply suggests you may have an increased risk, in which case you can then go on to consider cvs or amniocentesis. Most of the time though, this kind of testing isn't routine unless you're over 35.

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Coffee? Are you mad? I just googled coffee and find it has a terrible effect on pregnant fathers...

Have some calming herbal tea instead.

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Wrong. This is CH - they do all the tests they can because it doesn't cost the patient anything.

1) some people will terminate esp. in the case of trisomy.

2) others will prepare - having a disabled child changes your life... having time to adjust mentally and prepare physically (i.e. the house) helps

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Dear Ruskas,

I am a Registered Sonographer (that is, I am qualified to perform ultrasound) and have over 10 years of experience in this... I even have my own machine at home.

I am going to send you a PM with my contact details. I would rather explain what's going on to you than post at length here.

Jo

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Actually, I'm currently pregnant and I requested the triple screen, which is just a risk assessment. It is most certainly not always given as a routine test to younger women. It may be that in Switzerland it is given more often than in other countries, but it's certainly not a standard test for all women. My ob/gyn said it wasn't necessary but they would do it if I wanted the test.

As for termination, I don't see how anyone would do it after a test that merely assesses risk. After a diagnostic test, yes some will whilst as you said, others can prepare better. But the diagnostic tests carry a risk of miscarriage too.

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OK, here's our experience 3 pregnancies in CH - at each NT scan, they said "do you want to do bloods?".

Us: not really - what (as a medical professional) would you recommend

Them: doing the bloods...

Even though the risks were low.

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I was well under 30 and offered the test for both my pregnancies here. As for terminating, some people terminate healthy babies if they find out they aren't having the sex they want let alone a risk of a disabled baby. It's sad, I know but that's the way it is.

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I had the risk assessment nuchal and the bloods were introduced as alongside the scan they are supposed to give a more accurate risk assessment as they detect certain hormones then after you were given the option for a diagnostic test of cvs or amnio if you were classed as high risk. This was in the uk but that was what the bloods were taken for there.

To the OP I wish you all the best in your ultrasound. I have had sucessful and unsuccessful pregnancies it maybe they wish to confirm that your dates are correct on my first ultrasound it couldnt be seen with a abdominal scan I had to have an internal to view the heart beat as was so small. It could be just position they are so tiny at this stage they whizz around.. one scan I had he wouldnt stay still so they sent me out to eat food to get him to move the right way as star jumping wasnt helping and he was all scrunched in a ball.. xxx

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As a mum of 2 boys I totally understand your feelings. Also, it is impossible not to Google.....

My reaction -ALWAYS- has been: if I suspect something I see as many doctors as necessary until I am sure that things are OK. Thanks to my instincts I once called my doctor early in the morning (he was still in bed) and told him that something was wrong because my pressure suddenly increased, he asked me to rush to the hospital and he was there waiting for me. He made an ultrasound and one baby was in distress (was carrying twins) and immediately had an emergency C-section.

Doctors are out there for you. If you need reassurance, a check or whatever just go and see them. It is important that during pregnancy your wife feels as happy and relaxed as possible.

Gook luck!

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I

Believe

In

The

Therapeutic

effects

of

Coffee and Chocolate!

And Fudge!

And if you are Australian and pregnant you're not allowed more than 2 glasses of red wine per day when pregnant, but if American, you're not allowed any alcohol.

Check the net if you don't believe me- i dont have time. I'm making gurkensalat for all the people here that started out as a bean with a heartbeat on the tv screen.

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I am sorry but having had 2 miscarriages without the above mentioned symptoms you cannot state this.

Heartbeat is normally seen from 6/7 weeks gestation on.

Either the machine was faulty/older and you didn't see it, or the doctor did a quick scan and didn't point out the heart beating or something is not quite right.

I am sorry you two are worrying so much and I totally understand. Keeping fingers crossed for a great ultrasound friday.

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Its Friday.

Do you have time to make an update to the community?

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Well, we went to the doctor and not all is well. We were refered to the Kantonspital, the little one is smaller than before no heart beat.

Thanks for your support.

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Sorry to hear that. It must be very difficult for both of you. Hope in the hospital can help you.

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I'm very sorry to hear that too.

Thank you for taking the time to tell us.

As you can tell by the amount of people who have posted here, and mentioned it, even in the future, when you go on to have healthy pregnancies and children, you always remember "the one that got away". And thats ok.

I wish you strength at this time. Our thoughts are with you.

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I am sorry to hear that, wish you both all the strength for the coming times.

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Wrong - amniocentesis and chorionic villus sampling most certainly aren't free in Switzerland, unless the mother is over 35. Amniocentesis costs around 1200-1500 Fr. and you have to pay for that yourself. We ended up paying for the amniocentesis, mainly because we wanted peace of mind. For us, it was certainly worth it. Apart from that: there's a new test coming out later this year that will make amniocentesis superfluous. I highly doubt a lot of people will forgo that test once it's generally available: http://gyne-am-see.ch/CMS/de-CH/Pati...x?Sel=628&lg=1

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I'm extremely sorry to hear that :-( There's nothing anyone here can say to ameliorate your situation.

We went through some rough times when my wife got pregnant last year - she experienced a lot of bleeding in the beginning and we thought we had lost the baby more than once. We were completely freaking out, until I had a long talk with my general practitioner. What in the end calmed us down somewhat was one thing he told us: the risk of miscarriage is up to 50% in the first 6 weeks. Many women never even notice they're pregnant. The only thing you can do is try again. A miscarriage doesn't influence future pregnancies and the chance that your wife will get pregnant again and can have a healthy baby isn't changed by what you had to go through. I know this doesn't change anything for you right now, but perhaps it'll help you in the near future.

Peter

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Lord above. I'm talking ultrasound and bloods. Amniocentesis is certainly not done on ultrasound alone and only when indicated after the ultrasound and blood results are in.

Do keep up.

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I am so sorry to hear about this. I know how hard it must be, our son was stillborn after almost 6 months of pregnancy in November 2010. It's like Rangi said - he will always be with us.

Big hugs to both of you.