Unusual laws to be wary of in Switzerland?

Don't forget to kiss three times.

Jeeesus wept!!!!!

Due to move out to Switzerland in a few week but with all these laws and regulations I might sack it off!

Brilliant Patsycat.

OP, Paysycat refers to the airbrush cheek kissing, normally 2 in most parts of Europe, in Switzerland it is 3 times. Very regular thing for a female to do on meetings acquaintances of both sexes, if one is the male on receiving end, then the same.

It can be a bit different man to man, I will leave that to a male to expand.

It's tongues all the way.

You do that and all the jilted wannabe Swiss workers will hunt you down and steal your permit.

...so, yeah, please do sack it off, on our behalves (sp?)

When you kiss, start on the right side, and don't make it slobbery.

Maybe that's where I've been going wrong. I always start in the middle.

And if you need anything official from a Gemeinde office, make them re-read every sentence, sign the sentence, and stamp the signature, with date, then you take it to a Notary office and have it officially sworn and registered, then return a copy to Gemeinde and make them re-read it and sign for receiving it. For Sfr30 they will make a copy of their copy which they then sign and stamp and give to you, which you return to the Notary to countersign that Gemeinde did receive it, and give a copy of this back to the Gemeinde, to make another copy for you to put in your personal files (dont forget to pay another Sfr30 for the 2nd copy).

Then your ass is covered if any future mistakes are found by someone with nothing else to do but re-peruse your initial application.

While most of what has been written in this thread is bullshit (from the forum veterans who spend all day 'taking the piss'), its also hard to discern which is not bullshit, due to the foreignness of it all to a non-swiss mind.

Some tongue in cheek stuff is half true too, as well as bloody funny. Like dealing with the Gemeinde and getting to to check what they say.

It might help to think of Switzerland as Japan - lots of customs you wouldn't imagine. Lots of discretion is expected in public, but anything goes in private.

Its a wonderful place and you soon get used to the rules, and lauding your own skilled conformity over others... :-) or at least helping them understand the new rule they just discovered.

Soon the new rules will no longer make you upset. You will develop a sort of Alpine, Confucian forbearance.

But, some thing which are true:

1. You can only pick mushrooms on certain days and times, and must bring said mushrooms to the Gemeinde for sorting and inspection by and expert. This prevents death and unwanted hallucinations. I have also heard you may need a permit and that there is a regulation mushroom basket to use.

2. You do need a permit or license to play golf (theory and practical exams), ride a horse, go fishing, sail a boat etc.

3. If you get fined for not having a ticket on a train, then bloody well make the most of it and move to the first class carriage, something I did once from Geneva to Zurich. Train regulations change in December each year and you need to find out yourself. For example, until 2 years ago, you could get on an intercity train (not suburban ones) and buy your ticket form the conductor. No longer... hence how I was caught out.

4. You cant make noise on Sundays or after 10 pm and yes, neighbors can be very particular and they tend to call the police before asking you nicely.

5. The reason the Swiss act like little policemen about every little rule. Why? Well, spend so much effort adhering to them all - written and unwritten - that they don't like people coming along and messing it up. Especially foreigners. The pity is they assume you know the rule and are flagrantly disregarding it, and rarely offer a helpful suggestion.

6. You cant leave your engine running when you are not in the car.

7. You need winter tyres. Common sense as cold snaps (and ice) come unexpectedly, but if you have an accident and its under 6 degree C, you can be fined.

8. Recycle pretty much everything, including appliances (which you can return for free to any appliance store or certain Gemeinde recycling stations) and cars (unless you sell it for export - all the old cars go to North Africa or eastern Europe).

9. You are insured to the hilt whether you like it or not.

10. Look people in the yes when you clink 'cheers' and kiss Right, Left Right.

11. Everyone does their job properly and takes pride in it. Its probably the best thing, and is why everything "just works".

I am sure there is some kind of comprehensive and fairly current guide around for all this stuff... the www.ch.ch site covers a lot, as do these forums.

Good luck and Welcome to Toytown, where everything is perfect and just fine, all the time.

How bad is the noise thing?

10pm sounds frightfully early...I doubt I'll be investing in a drum kit living in an apartment but I do like watching TV that late.

Don't worry about it. As long as you treat your neighbours like human beings, then you'll be fine.

It would be worthwhile to greet your neighbors upon moving in. Not normal practice, but could save you a LOT of trouble down the road. My neighbors let me get away with all kinds of ridiculous things.

There are definite advantages to not integrating into village life, it was much easier when we were the newbie foreigners and thus avoided the lengthy three kiss routine at every gathering.

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it's 11pm here but quiet time is also 12-2pm (not kidding)

My husband likes video games and likes them loud; he has invested in bluetooth headphones to solve this problem. This also pleases me too

Another thing I have been told off for, hanging towels etc out to dry over the balcony rail. Not allowed! It may be my balcony, but other people have to look at it from the outside so it must not look "untidy" (y) this took me aback but I can kind of see their point, fair enough

My recommendation is the revers. Dont bother getting too close to your neighburs because it will only make you the more disapointed when they complain. Because they always do, regardless of how much you greet them.

The working/school life starts much earlier in Switzerland than UK, does vary a bit Canton to Canton. In Canton Thurgau children are in the Gym at 7.30am on school days.

TV is not a problem, it is things like jumping up down, loud noise, washing machine etc

Thanks.

Hmm... That will be tough for me. I'm terrible at getting up early even after years of starting work at 8.20. My internal clock just won't shift- I see 11pm and something says I can't sleep yet <_<

One thing that has come to mind... Is drinking on the streets/in public ok here? (That's one where Britain is usually the weird country that says no! )

Let me get this straight. You're moving to Switzerland, and you're already investigating the feasibility of spending time drinking on the street? Are you planning to hang out with other like-minded drinkers, sit on a bench somewhere and maybe crack open a few cans of Feldschlosschen? This is the sort of activity which usually happens in a rather more unplanned sort of way - either as a result of losing your job or being turned out of your accommodation. But I am impressed by your forward thinking.

It's not something I do too regularly but in many countries there's nothing wrong legally or socially with having a beer whilst watching the world go by, hanging out with friends, waiting for a bus, etc...

In Britain meanwhile the instant image is tramps getting wasted on white lightning and special brew, so it is looked down on and illegal.

I wonder where Switzerland stands.