Use of e-Gates - British passport

Is this because you need to have lived in Zug for 5 years before applying? That's a bit unfortunate: in Vaud you only need to have the previous 2 years in the canton before applying.

I know thats the case in ZH, but not Zug.

You might want to double check your info because those are the old rules you’ve quoted there.

It’s only 10 years residency now and the years between 8 and 18 years of age count double.

Oh damn sorry to hear that. The changing kantons thing is a stupid rule imo.

I got it from the Zug cantonal website Belgianmum

However I also checked the German text (in case the English was out of date) and it seems to be consistent. I thought the rules were canton dependent, so some might choose to have longer cantonal residency requirements.

The federal rules are the same throughout Switzerland and they are wrong in the link you posted so the Zug canton website is out of date.

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...er-werden.html

https://www.ch.ch/en/foreign-nationa...aturalisation/

It probably doesn’t change the five years living in the canton requirement for Zug but you’d think they’d give the correct information for the federal rules. They changed in 2018 for goodness sake, they’ve had plenty of time to update their website.

I take ownership by requesting that people unhappy with longer airport queues check their privilege

I believe it used to be 8 years in Sankt Gallen!

Back on topic, I don't think there is any particular Schengen restriction and individual countries or airports must have some leeway. Case in point is last time transiting Amsterdam, the fast do it yourself scanners were not only for EU and Schengen, but also US and I believe JP was also included. Perhaps due to some bilateral arrangement. That being said, scanning the US passport did not work and I ended up scanning the CH one as Dutch border official supervising advised to do. But in theory the lanes were marked and allowed certain outside Schengen passports

Actually the cantons (communes as well) are to require a stay between 2 and 5 years. The law .

I quoted your whole post..!!

Perhaps you could take another look and see that I quoted his whole post..

Your churlish attempt at a rhetorical insult is vapid.

You’ll take ownership of anything that allows you to deflect the attention from your responsibility in creating the mess for your fellow citizens...

Those stuck in very long non EU queues are not just Brexiters though - if they were, well, tough cheese! What is so aggravating, that all those who knew that would happen, and voted against, are also stuck there, with their kids, grannies, etc.

Glad I have a second passport that will ensure I am not, but still!

I was hoping that residents could use the EU/EEA/EFTA human lane with their permits, but no.

The Irish Dept. of Foreign Affairs, will double the passport office staff in the next couple of weeks to deal with the added demand. They expect to issue 1.7m passports this year and given the population is only 5m, with 10 year passports that is a ridiculous figure.

How would that be possible? These machines are for passports , your resident permit is not a passport . Passports today have biometric data embedded. The resident permit is just a flimsy piece of paper with your picture on it (my C permit is anyway).

Acceptable things to complain about on here include;

My 10 year old son has been kidnapped by a local militia and is forced to be a child soldier

My husband sold my 12 year old daughter to a 60 year old as a child bride

There has been no rain for 6 months and all my crops and/or animals have died

There has been too much rain and my entire village was washed away in a flood

The nearest medical facility is 4 days walk away, and when we got there there was not enough medicine so my wife died anyway.

Unacceptable things to complain about on here

I have lost quite a few of the rights I used to have

A residents permit is not an identity document.... you are treated the same as every other third country citizen, who's identity needs to be correctly validated and depending on the circumstances to ensure that you have not committed a crime in another Schengen state. And if you have you'll be heading for there not Switzerland.

I now have the biometric data embedded card permit.

In 18 months I will start the process of becoming Swiss (I moved community, but in the same canton, so 2 weeks shy of 10 years I added another 2).

The paper permit card was for EU/EFTA citizen which all can use the e-gates. Third country nationals always got a biometric permit card which follows a common format . UK nationals with a paper permit are an oddity.

Since November 2021 Switzerland started to issue cerdit card sized permit cards to EU/EFTA nationals.