Very proud to be British. Or at least not Swiss

The force in charge with destroying tunnels and bridges and roads were the MI KP (Mineur Kompanien), which means an integral section of the Swiss Army.

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"Does'nt give a shit" ? and so not writing to where it would have been the real thing ? But making a lot of ado here on the forum ? YOU apparently give a LOT OF SHIT to this aspect

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They would not fail to get him when exiting, as you learn it in the CHarmy

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Have you never thrown a big rock into the middle of a pond to see what would happen? Or rattled a stick along the bars of a monkey's cage?

Not really no, to put it with Mr Mohammed el-Amir el-Atta, "childish notions are not really helpful in this world"

No, but they're an awful lot of fun!

well, I do not take fun in hopeless attitudes

...Switzerland having no intrinsic value.

A better way of expressing of what I was trying to say earlier was that the Germans were more worried about the Swiss Army destroying crucial tunnels and bridges in the Alps which the Germans needed to supply their troops in Italy than defeating German soldiers head to head in battle, although I wouldn't rule that out, either.

I don't really see any relevant connection between the outfit of soldiers and patriotism Why is that even important?

Maybe you should ask someone in marketing or communications, or better still in marketing communications...

The definition is a crime carried out in the furtherence of the parties success in a war. Unfortunately, the term war criminal has an element of reason to it - I committed the crime because we were at war.

The holocaust is often referred to as a war crime but in effect it was deterimental to the German war effort as it sucked resources from the Eastern Front.

Sometimes so called war criminals were (are) just monsters.

http://www.revue.ch/soldat-en

Read this !

Little late ! But thanks anyhow

typical of all military is that 95% of all the reporting is about procedures, legalities, protocols etc, and less then 3% about what happened or what can be done to prevent such things from happening again !

to the OP,

I am glad the young are making a mockery of their national service by being sloppy -f%*k it foot soldiers in the 21st century is a joke and treats the Swiss Army seriously...now where is that Eddie Izzard clip about the Swiss Army protecting the Pope with their penknives.

Armies should be illegal everywhere, no matter where they come from.

I fully agree, and we should put together an armed force of trained professionals to enforce that law!

Interestingly I have noticed that the cub scouts are so shabbily turned out in Zurich. While I was waiting at the train station the other day I found myself in the midst of a gang of kids wearing crumpled kaki shirts with buttons missing, and felt-tip writing scrawled on them, mismatching attire and neck scarves, WITH NO WOGGLE!!! When I was in the cub scouts in Britain it was expected that you looked pristine, and to forget a woggle or fail an inspection was a hanging offence! (Just to clarify it was the cub scouts I was in, not the Hitler youth).

But the kids I saw were having fun, were from a wide range of ethnic back grounds and were girls and boys in equal numbers. My British scout experience was nothing like that, it was like the army, (and I don't mean by that the 'sgt Bilko' light hearted army, I mean the dystopian bleak Stanley Kubrick-esq 'paths of glory' army), with boot stamping and saluting, inspections, and punishment beatings for the young recruits.

So in conclusion despite the scruffiness its probably better the Swiss way!

Patriotism, of course, being the last refuge of a scoundrel...

And to complete the syllogism:-

"Let us take a patriot, where we can meet him; and, that we may not flatter ourselves by false appearances, distinguish those marks which are certain, from those which may deceive; for a man may have the external appearance of a patriot, without the constituent qualities; as false coins have often lustre, though they want weight."

Shame that "patriot" had a completely different meaning when Dr Johnson used the word, isn't it?