I'm from New York, I came here in Aug, j'habite à Lausanne actuellement... Most Americans annoy me too overseas.... I make it a point also to say "Je vien de New York pas Amérique." Its the loud tones, looking for their America in other parts of the world, Starbucks,...
They can't help it maybe.... Try harder...
I'm hell bent on learning french and because I try to speak french sincerely, I have made many new friends swiss, french, and others that are trying to learn.... Did I mention how much more easily I can get around now...
Its not just Americans, I know a few foreigners here that have not picked up the language as fast as they could have and life is very limiting to them.....
yesyesyes. from nyc in lausanne too for almost 3 years. but of course saying you are from nyc doesn't exclude you from talking loud, we may be worse than the others at this...
No, I learned it from middle school onwards in science class, very well in fact. I much prefer measuring volume and weight in metric -- just makes more sense -- but for some reason, celcius never clicked for me in the real world. You can't learn science without the metric system .
Interestingly, there is a (metric) tonne of other units in common use for practical and engineering purposes. So metric units are normally not enough for scientists and engineers.
For example, the watch industry still measures the size of a calibre in lignes. This is neither metric nor imperial. Air traffic controllers for a long time found it useful to measure horizontal distance in km and vertical distance in feet.
Theoretical physicists often use units in which the Planck and Boltzmann constants, and the speed of light, are set to 1. Everything else is then measured in units of the Plank mass.
And you need to measure out a cricket pitch in chains (one of the lovely imperial measures).
And now I'm declaring myself officially out of bounds, even with regard to normal levels of thread drift.
Just wanted to say that since going deaf in one ear I have really enjoyed meeting new Americans individually, as they not only speak up but enunciate so I can lip read. I wish more Swiss did this. But that is probably just me.
One of my first memories of being an American traveling overseas was as an exchange student. My host family and I were driving through Denmark and stopped at a restaurant in Odense. We were casually dining when in walked what could only be described as your typical southern redneck family of ma, pa, memaw, papaw and a couple of yungens.
Ma was placing the order and hollered out to papaw, "Hey Daddy, do you want a hamburger or a hot dog???" I should add that, neither hamburgers nor hot dogs were on the menu.
My host father smirked and leaned to me across the table, "That's your countrymen. Aren't you proud?" That's when I learned to be ashamed of my fellow Americans should I ever be associated with their bad or embarassing behaviors. As a result, until a few years ago you never would have found me on an organized tour or cruise with them. George Bush didn't help this at all, and I too have claimed Canadian citizenship when asked where my funny accent was from while traveling abroad.
That said though, I have been in packs of Aussies with stubby coolers. I have gone galavanting with gaggles of Brits. I have even had the pleasure of touring with Germans wearing socks and sandles. And all I can say is that, there is no nationality on this planet that can claim perfection or exemption from being irksomeless when it comes to traveling the world or being displaced into a culture that is not their own.
So, chins up, my fellow Americans. Own your heritage, and be proud of who you are. We have nothing to be ashamed of. Talk like a Yank and go out there and irk the fondue out of some Swiss.
I didn't read every post but let me tell you my opinion. I find people who are ''against'' americans or hate or dislike them to be totally spineless. They follow a trend of ''let's hate them" while most of them never been in the US nor know them close enough to pass a judgement.
It is fashionable to hate them, isn't it?
- How are you today?
- I am good thank you, I hate americans!
- Me too!
The US is so freaking big and has people from all over the world living there. So I don't know for you, but an american is certainly not that typical that all are the same.
@KeinFranzösisch - 'there is no nationality on this planet that can claim perfection or exemption from being irksomeless when it comes to traveling the world or being displaced into a culture that is not their own'
How right you are! You can't believe what Muppets some of my fellow Brits can be when abroad. Fortunately few go to Switzerland - preferring to get tanked up on cheap beer and mind numbingly dreadful fast food in Spain.
I may be too telegraphic in my writing. It comes of being a crap typist
Good stuff. The fact is, there are national stereotypes, and too many people from each nation seem to follow them. BUT there is absolutely no certainty that any one individual will be bound by them. So we have Americans who do not talk loudly, Germans who don't wear sandals, and Aussies who don't drink beer.
And as a matter of anecdotal interest, two of my daughters have triple nationality. They have no idea whom they should cheer for when there's rugby on.
In deep space, no one can hear you scream - because you're frozen solid.
I don't know if this helps at all, but, as a chemically pure Swiss, I don't like to be seen together with other Swiss abroad, especially in countries where I feel fairly assimilated and know the way of thinking of the locals. Swiss abroad, maybe not expats but tourists, are loud and complain about pretty much everything that's not exactly the way it is at home. EFers who have been around for long enough know how much I dislike generalization, but, sad enough, that behavior can be seen too often to just be a coincidence.
Should I start a new thread now? Or maybe even a new forum?