Where do you shop for your electrical needs (box, wire, switch, socket, etc...)

Well, you can get them in China... if you want eg. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32831401077.html

If you a dare devil.

What's it really like to walk on water all the time Tom ?

Every sale you get a notice a bit later for EBIT control (before and after the fuse box)

I only buy electrical stuff at Ali Express when it's also on sale at somewhere like Digitec here.

I'd be lying to say I haven't gone on aliexpress to check already

Problem is that Brazil is very similar and I strongly believe those are Brazilian sockets they are selling - they are not compatible and a few minimetre different to Switzerland sockets for whoever is intent on trying..

I thought the same thing.

And, if they Brazilian then there's no way they have CE let alone Swiss approval.

What is EBIT control?

RASI control was CHF 170, and as I said the only sticking points were stuff from when the place was built, everything I have done is fine and dandy.

In any case, next RASI inspection in 18 years.

Tom

It’s the same as a RASI control for those of us in french speaking Switzerland but I’m sure you knew that already.

Actually, no, different acronyms mean nothing to me.

If so, than simple to pass.

They do NOT check the actual work that has been done, just that everything passes their measurements.

Tom

I think these ones are actually swiss.

Is there really a difference ? Sure they can't see the installation you made as it is hidden but the quickly know if something doesn't measure correctly !

Interestingly in one post you say there was only a "couple of things to fix" yet later on there was "a list" if things to fix......

RSAI/EBIT is when a house is sold, irrespective of last test or 20 years.

But i am absolutely convinced, you know best, Tom.

The list was quite short. Two sockets had P - N swapped, the wiring to the shower needed to be removed, one of the bathroom sockets needed a ground and a recessed socket (swapped with one from another room which did not require a recessed socket. 20 minutes of my time.

The inspector didn't like my 3P extension cord (I should have removed it), so that had to be hardwired. The electrician was perfectly happy with my choice of cable and simply hardwired that.

We have no plans to sell in my lifetime, and a CHF 170 test that I now know how to pass is not a worry.

Ultimately, the only problems were with bits of the original installation from 45 years earlier, none of my work was questioned. Had I known what they would check, I would have checked it myself and fixed it all ahead of time.

Tom

P.S. Household electricity is dirt simple, even by age 10 I knew how to use my father's oscilloscope to check if the phases were aligned when using multiple transformers with my trains (to make them go faster)

How come electricians get it wrong so many times then?

My father never showed me his oscilloscope.

Well you could just do what the rest of us do when we don’t understand something, look it up. It was pretty obvious it was equivalent to the Italian acronym you had already used.

I had no idea what RSAI meant but it was pretty easy to find out

Umm, I did look it up and only found "EBIT stands for Earnings Before Interest and Taxes", which wasn't helpfl.

Tom

Did he have one? I have several, my father only had the one.

Tom

After a long time trying to talk myself out of buying an oscilloscope, I bought my first one a couple of weeks ago. Now I wish I'd bought it a lot earlier - it's like not having to do things while blindfolded any more.

I was joking.

The list doesn't stop.

I bought a bench power supply not so long ago - I wished I had bought ones of those years ago.

My "oscilloscope" is one of those Ali Express 15 CHF ones. It's fine for voltage/logic levels etc but not a lot else!

I ought to get a real one. You can get something in the hundreds of francs rather than the thousands now.

Bench power supply and frequency generator are on the list that I've managed to resist so far, but would be quite useful.

I also bought one of the 15chf aliexpress ones and was pleasantly surprised that it was functional, but so frustrating to use that I never really used it.

F**k me Tom, you are a REAL STAR......You should get one in Hollywood Boulevard you so smart