https://www.ch.ch/en/family-reunification/
MedeaFleecesteeler responded to this point at #4 above.
To enter Switzerland under family reunification, you need to be under 18 years old:
I know but my question is if the process of obtaining visa before would change anything or not.
Probably not. I assume you're not under 18 anymore, so whatever visa that might have been no longer applies. Welcome to adulthood.
Yeah, well thank you all so much for help
You could consider studying at University here if you meet the admission criteria, have the funds, and if you speak one of the national languages sufficiently. After you graduate you would be on equal footing with Swiss/EU for jobs for the next 6 months.
Well that would be a good idea as well but since i ll be 28 this year i think i m a little too old for that.
Therefor i would consider into going on different educational courses for full time jobs in Switzerland.
Just wondering... why is 28 too old?
Of course, I do understand that you'd still need to fund your studies... would your father, who lives in Switzerland, be prepared to help you, perhaps by letting you stay with him while you were a student?
But BEWARE: under certain circumstances (the details of which I don't know, sorry) residents of Switzerland (your father) are sometimes permitted to sign a "guarantee" for a family member (you) from abroad, who comes to live with them (your father).
This guarantee goes much, much further than many people realise.
The guarantor (your father) promises to cover ALL the costs of the person for whom he is standing guarantee (you), no matter what. That means he will be wholly responsible for every financial need you have, including board and lodging, and your medical insurance premiums, any medical expenses not covered by the insurance, and in exchange, you will not be eligible to any kind of social security assistance at all.
In my opinion such a guarantee should only be signed under very, very desperate circumstances. If you are not nearly starving, and not living in a cardboard box, by reamining in Croatia, then I would not recommend that your father signs such a document for you, here in Switzerland.
It would mean your life and his life would tied together forever, and you would be going back several steps in terms of adult development, and he'd be taking on a new burden (the potential extent of which no-one can estimate accurately) when he is, in fact, finished the main years of parenting.
Of course, I have no idea at all about you or your relationship with your father. I mention this guarantee here because I have known several families where this system ended up choking everyone, such that the new immigrants couldn't get away for feeling indebted, and the ones already settled in Switzerland became trapped and poorer and poorer.
I write about it now just in case you and your father are in touch, and someone recommends to him that he could just sign, and then you could come to live with him.
The same applies should you meet a potential partner who lives in Switzerland. If, on your holiday here, you find someone who would like to be with you, and who would like to marry you, either for real or just so that you can get a permit to live here, then it is much wiser to get married than for that person to sign a guarantee. If either of you ever wants to leave the other, then it is much easier to get a divorce, if possible a friendly one, and settle the finances, than it ever is to dissolve the consequences of that guarantee.
Of course, you have not said a word about these options, so please just dismiss these ideas if they are not anything you would consider, anyway, okay? Thanks.
Not sure what you mean by that. Do you mean doing courses that may help you find work here or studying in hopes that while here you could find work? Understand that even as a student, the non-EU hiring rules would apply to any employer who wants to hire you full time if you drop your studies. Students are only allowed to work 15 hours a week maximum during their courses. And if you don’t graduate from a Swiss uni the “equal footing” situation doesn’t apply regarding possible hires.
well my opinion is you are never too old for anything but would be just weird to start uni at 28 with all those 20 year olds.
courses i would do that would help me find a job as well to improve myself.
But if there is a good possibility to go to uni and finish to be able to get a working permit easier then thats a good thing too.
As for guarantee letter, i never thought about that, relationship in my family is great and money is not a problem. but no i wouldnt consider to get a visa in that kind of way.
What are the possibilities of self employment? i think i asked that already but yeah. For example if i would like to open a pancake bar in switzerland.. what would be possibilities to get a permit for that?
No. You’re not allowed to be self-employed here as a non-EU national. Because of the quota situation you have to be employed by a Swiss employer.
Swiss uni graduates are supposed to be on equal footing when it comes to hiring for the first 6 months after graduation. Upper age acceptance limit for unis here is 33 iirc.
https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home…abgaenger.html
The employer still needs to prove the position will provide economic/scientific importance to the Swiss economy.
Thank you very much for the given info, it was very helpful. Just a last question to make it fully clear, 33 is limit to be accepted to college but if i start at 32 for example i can still finish with 33+?
Cut off age for acceptance is 33 I think, but it doesn’t matter if you’re past that age when you graduate.
Oh, dear. That's a restriction of which I'd not heard before.
Could you please provide a link to this? Thanks.
Edit: Oh, now I found this thread Ph.D. Is there an age limit?
Indeed, I know some "perpetual" students
Likewise.
He finally graduated at 40 or so.
Tom
i m just in a negotiation with a swiss company that sends people to work in hotels in Greece. I was told they are giving me a swiss contract but its different and its not working permit for switzerland since i would work in greece. but after a year working on their contract i start to benefit the country (switzerland) and it could be somehow easier to get a work permit to work in switzerland. so my question is- is that the possibility ?or i was told something wrong?
I would say it’s nonsense myself. Just because you’re working for them in Greece means nothing. Despite any economic benefit to Switzerland they’d still have to prove they can’t find a Swiss/EU national to do a similar job here.
I know you have your heart set on coming to work in Switzerland, but you need to approach this realistically. Do not let yourself be scammed just because you want so much to be here. I'm not saying this is a scam, but it sure sounds fishy. If it were that easy, everyone would be doing it.
The harsh reality is that without special skills or training it will be virtually impossible for an employer to prove they can't find a Swiss or EU citizen for the job. Instead of trying to find workarounds, start focusing on what you have to do - distinguish yourself from the hoards of competition so that a Swiss employer can't live without you.
These are just some ideas:
1) Germany: if a goal is to be near your father/ family in Switzerland, have you considered looking for a job along the Swiss border in southern Germany?
2) Austria: according to this link, Croatians are granted seasonal permits to work in Austria in selected industries, such as hotels and restaurants:
http://www.ams.at/_docs/001_Neue_EU-Buerger_08.pdf
3) Liechtenstein: this tiny country has 35'000 jobs and 35'000 residents, with 50% of the workers commuting from Switzerland, Austria and Germany. You might wish to explore whether Croatians are granted work permits there.
Here are several job boards for southern Germany, western Austria, eastern Switzerland and Liechtenstein. If you're interested in hotel/ restaurant work, search on Gastro:
http://www.metajob.at/gastronomie-vorarlberg
http://www.hotelcareer.at/jobs/vorarlberg
Added:
Also see this job board for Liechtenstein:
http://www.amsfl.li/stellensuchende/
At p. 11, 13, 15 of this brochure are additional job boards for the Bodensee/ Lake Constance area:
This has nothing to do with me coming to switzerland it is just what the woman said in our conversation.. i applied for the job as touristic entertainer where i have a lot of experience in.. this is just something she mentioned during our conversation.. that their main office is in switzerland but they send ppl to work in greece and we basically have nothing to do with switzerland but after a year working with them we do give some contribution to the country. so i just wanted to check that out.