Zurich extreme housing shortage

Due to work I’m looking at the cantonal population estimates for 2040 and 2055.

I was surprised by the numbers. The SVP makes a lot of noise of Switzerland and 10 million people. Yes, there may be 10+ million people in Switzerland in the future if economy stays fine. If things don’t go as nice as now, there might be the same number of people but more concentrated in the cities.

Only ZH, LU, ZG, FR, AI, SG, AG, TG, VD, VS, and GE seem to have a clear trend to grow.

There is a chance that BE, UR, SZ, OB, NI, GL, BS, SH,AR, GR, TI, NE and JU may have less people by 2055 than today.

Depopulation should be a concern, specially for the most impacted municipalities…those ones you read on the news that merge with another one because they can’t afford the local school or their own bureaucracy.

Anyway, it seems the housing in Zurich will be an issue for a looong time.

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OK, I can see what’s driving this trend, but VS is surprising to see among those. Maybe it constantly attracts retires?

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Another attention-seeking effluencer who succeeded in trolling for more attention.

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It’s the flat areas along the main rail lines and motorways from Geneva to St. Gallen. Basically, all economic development happens there. Bern is right there, but Bern is also the 2nd largest canton with lots of people in small towns that may depopulate.

Valais? No idea.

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Year 2025. A clothes washer and a dryer in the apartment are still “high expectations”.

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“Influencers” and 20 Minutes are nothing but clickbaiting ad sales businesses. The world would be a better place without all of them.

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Interesting that since the link was posted, 20min have now pixeled out her face. Guess she was getting more than she bargained for.

LOL, an influencer going on tiktok is gonna get reactions, no need to be an expat. And althought I think the hunt is for likes … life is what it is.

A washmachine and a tumbler in the flat is no big deal anymore, an elevator straight into the flat more difficult to find (friend of mine had that in Zug, I wouldn’t want it if I were paid), several balconies in different directions? No problem, I had that in Adliswil decades ago, South and North. Walk-in closet - what’s the fuss about that?! Easy, if not built in just use one of the rooms (done that before too, kind of handy but not missing it now). Walking distance from lake and Limmat should cost her 10K/month for less of the demands above. But the clicks on tiktok should cover that?
I did laugh about the “in case you wonder who rents your flat after restauration”.

Cycling through Waffenplatzstrasse in the wrong direction might end painful but HEY, she cycles!

So agreed, “Another attention-seeking effluencer who succeeded in trolling for more attention.” Plus 20-minutes suffers from the “Sommerloch” (silly season) already.

No too long ago it was the DW.

Like the land they bought in Witikon (after blocking a real state developer for doing what they know best) . The city of Zurich will develop 200 flats, with only 60 parking spaces…which will be ‘social housing’. And, also costing almost a million per flat on development. I am still crying with laugh.
Rental prices will be ‘social’… is it a miracle? not, it’s your taxes…

Those aristocratic Greeners really know what is best for the common folk.

SZ surprised me. I’ve noticed that people working in Zurich tend to move to SZ, especially if they can buy their own apartment/house. But some move even in rental, because of the lower taxes.

What is the problem with parking spaces? You can live in Zurich comfortably without car. Even if you have kids. It’s not a problem.

So that is why all the blue zone parking is rented out to locals, whose cars sit around 24/7 going nowhere!

I don’t have a car – neither kids, but @TinyK , i think we are exceptions…
When the ‘specialist’ in charge of population development, plan for an increase of +15% people having to move around daily in / out of a particular area… well, it is not just about parking spaces… I I was visiting my family last week, and I almost lost my train to Munich – the bus took 45 minutes to reach HB!!!

200 apartments…there should be parking places reserved for delivery services: Post, pizza, online shopping, etc. It would be nice if people maintaining the building had a place to park instead of the street: cleaning services, gardening, elevator maintenance, plumbers, heating technicians…it’s nice to say “I don’t have a car” but that doesn’t make cars vanish from reality.

Anyway, the gold nugget in Izzy_the_busy_bee comment is the 1 million per unit of construction costs. A quick estimate is that the rent should be around 3’200 to 3’500 CHF plus water+heating+other services. So, a total rent of 3’500-3’800 CHF/month for “social housing”.

Can you imagine the amount of taxpayer funds to tow all the illegally parked vehicles there? :rofl:

My friend has 3 kids and a garage, but they have no car. They take that mobility car that suits their needs whenever they want to go somewhere with car or use public transport.

We use our car very rarely. We bought it mostly because we live outside Zurich and we have only very few mobility cars in our village and they are not really family cars.

I believe the threshold is somewhere north of 200k-250k. Or at least it was. Not sure about now.

If you’re a DINK couple, that’s not too difficult to achieve.