Using a QR code, fraudsters gained access to four accounts belonging to M.S.* Within a very short time, the fraudsters stole 22,000 Swiss francs. The family has to start from scratch again.
Not really sure how this worked.
I have a daily withdrawl limit on my bank accounts so I hope I am protected from false large withdrawls, unless somebody can find a way to change the limit.
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Not via ebanking usually (which was how this was done, the lady was extremly ā¦ naive?)
Even though Raiffeisen has a cunning system now to stop me from getting my money back but it is more than 20k and even if Iād overstep my limit āallā they would do is charge me interest (on my own money 
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When they were told to up their equity they got that mixed up with the clients money.
Shouldnāt the bank flag recurring payments if the payment reference (ROC) is missing? Also, for Inland and Sepa transactions (Switzerland, France and Italy in this case), couldnāt the receiving bank trace the recipient?
The recipient in Switzerland, at the very least, should be easily identifiable. No? After all, in Switzerland, opening a bank account requires extensive documentation (Passport/ID + Wohnsitzbestaetigung/attestation de domicileā¦).
I also noticed that daily withdrawal limits apply only to ATMs. In e-banking, thereās no such limit, but my bank verifies the first payment to a new recipient (Inland, Sepa or international) via its app. However, for well-known Swiss entities like insurers, ISPs, telecom providers, etc, no confirmation is required, even for the first payment.
From UBS āFor your personal security, you can set a payment limit in E-Banking or the Mobile Banking App for all payments entered within one calendar month as well as a specific daily limit or transaction limit for instant payments.ā
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OH and I also have a daily limitā¦(to be honest it works mostly as a deterrent to silly shopping episodes) but yeah, the idea was that if we lose our cards etc potential crooks wonāt get too far.
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Wow, this phishing needs to be recognized. Such level of confidence.
Itās damned hard to forge a passport. Of course, specialized people can do that. But, if someone offers the service and leaves a whatsapp and telegram contactā¦itās not the specialized people 
The scammers can be sure that if someone ever contacts them, itās truly an idiot with more money than brains.
Had a new variant of the āpolice departmentā one today. Apparently my ID card has been involved in some illegal activities so an arrest warrant has been issued against me.
thatās soo exciting! And, did they reach you in Swiss German, or had the delicacy of doing it in broken English? 
Iāve had this type of call 3 or 4 times over the past month or so. I go curious and followed the touch-dial to an operator then had 30 seconds of fun winding him up before he swore and cut me off.
The initial recorded message is in (American) English but once you reach what sounds like a call centre, they always have a heavy accent from somewhere in the direction of India and around there.
Recorded, slightly American accented, machine-produced English.
Iāve had these before about bank accounts, but never the ID card one. I donāt even have an ID card as such, just my paper C permit.
The ID card one has been doing the rounds for quite a while now, at least a year Iād say.
Youād have thought theyād have found something new by now.
Why do you still have a paper C permit? Even the oldest ones should have been converted to the credit card type by now.
No, it varies by canton. Next renewal is in August, weāll see.
got the phonebill for that 30 seconds of fun yet? Or know what ever you signed up to?
Oof! Do you think thatās chargeable? 
no idea. But they must know themselves that nobody falls for the original trick anymore so must have implemented a second one 
They speak German in cembria?
HQ is near my workplace, somewhere in Altstetten (ZH). In bad days, when I donāt bring my own lunch to the office, I eat at the cantine there. I listen to mostly German