Air India flight to London carrying 242 people crashes in Ahmedabad

https://x.com/FaisalYousaf66/status/1933206442762211799/video/2

Lone survivor walking away towards an ambulance.

Plot of James Herbert book ā€žThe Survivorā€œ

Its bittersweet for him and his family, because his brother Ajay was sitting on the opposite side of the aisle and perished in the crash.

An experience like that must be life-changing. Inwardly.
He lost his brother on that flight though.

It is needless to speculate until all the data from the black boxes are analysed. It likely wasn’t a single issue but a combination of two or more. Perhaps, for example fuel contamination reduced the thrust and a bird strike (or two) disabled an engine (or two).

First unscheduled hull retirement for a 787 in 14 years,

I’m amazed they repaired the two involved in the early battery fires.

The two Boeing 787 aircraft damaged by fires in early 2013 were repaired and returned to service, not retired.

I know. I’m still amazed they were repairable.

People seem to be very convinced that the RAT was deployed.

There have been cases where an airline or manufacturer have indulged in political/marketing repairs to preserve a ā€œNo hull lossā€ record. Thinking of this one for example…

And at that time there was a shortage of capacity. Lot quicker to repair than replace. Boeing made new tails that were transplanted on damaged aircraft. Boeing still behind on deliveries on new B787

The RAT, Ram Air Turbine, would deploy automatically if both engines stop functioning. Media reports engines screaming so doubt it an automatic deployment.

Classic.

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Dual engine failure now seems to be the preferred theory amongst some experts. It could also explain why the landing gear didn’t come up as there would have been no hydraulics.

This would take this tragic accident from one of pilot error to an issue with the 787, heaping further woes on Boeing.

Until we get the data from the (hopefully undamaged) black boxes it is all speculation. It could have been that, it could have been something else.

Understood Bowlie, but until then we can speculate and there is nothing wrong with that.

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2nd black box has been found.

That one is the CVR, Cockpit Voice Recorder. This records spoken words and other cockpit sounds such as alerts or alarms. Often a specific sound can be identified to a specific system aiding in understanding of the first black box which records flight perimeters.

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Actually, on the 787 the CVR and FDR are actually combined (called an Enhanced Airborne Flight Recorder (EAFR) ).

There are two of them, one in the nose and one in the tail, for enhanced survival rates of the data. But both EAFRs record the same data, so you only actually need one if both survive.

The A350, in addition to fixed combined CVR/FDR, has an ejectable data recorder, that is ejected from the aircraft incase the ones inside the aircraft are destroyed/unobtainable (it floats if crash is on water)- pretty cool!!

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So how much blackbox information is being uploaded in real time? I would imagine we have the technology to upload everything live (including voice) to the point where communication fails.

This would be particularly useful in cases where planes crash at sea and blackbox retrieval is difficult or impossible.