Another 'Am I just being dim or...' question [Price of a ceiling-light]

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I used to work for Artemide in London, the luminaire ( correct wording) you have shown is a colour changing system...i.e. you can set it for your 'mood'.

When I left Artemide I had a garage full of fittings and after a year of them declining to collect, I sold them all on ebay...shipped them all over the world.

However I digress.....the fittings are top quality Italian designed, I would look on ebay as a starter via private sellers or a discount business...or buy it in the UK where it will be cheaper..

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When was the last time you were at the gas pump?

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I forgot to say Pixie...go to the UK website, they have a showroom on Great Russell Street ( my old office)

I also forgot to brag that my house is stuffed full of Artemide/ Flos etc etc :-)

BUT still lots of ceiling lights missing......the wiring here is mind boggling.

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3 wires is mind boggling?

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thanks.. just been on Hornbach, not found a cheap rip-off haha. But, have found some lovely (and cheap!) lights for the spare kids' room (y)

I thought I had looked at Artemide yesterday and found the tian xia to be about £5k so even more expensive from England! But I am perhaps mistaken.. I will have another look later

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3 wires wouldn't be mind boggling if it wasn't for the fact that when fitting some lights I found that sometimes the blue was live, then orange and then yellow...inconsistent! All within 3 wire fittings.

This house isn't even old, it was built in the early 90's

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Welcome to Switzerland! We have just a light bulb hanging in our dinning room! But I agree with a previous post IKEA is your best option or look for a second hand light fixture on this forum!

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Aldi frequently price their stuff at 0.99 or 0.49. The total bill is usually rounded down at the end IIRC.

Pixie, they are called rappens in the German speakin part and centimes ( cents) in the French speaking part.

No idea about Ticino but as absolutely everything is different down there they're probably called frog's eyes or something.

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No, not if you are speaking English.

They are cents in English, Rappen in German, centimes in French, centesimi in Italian.

Tom

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p { margin-bottom: 0.25cm; line-height: 120%; } As long as the blue and the yellow-green are not live, then everything is ok. But due to national differences in the past and international harmonization in recent years the color coding can be really confusing (especially if done by a foreign worker (German, Austrian, Italian, French, Protuguese, Spanish, ... ) or house owner/ who is used to a (sligthly) different coding scheme) can things really mess up. Therefore, it is not stupid to check it before. However, the new standard is valid since 2001.

But in general, according to the latest, international standard, for the case of single-phased 220/230V AC :

- yellow - green (since 1965, yellow-red in older Swiss days) should be the PE line (grounding, earth line, " Schutzleiter PE ", "Erdung", in Germany also called: "Mittelleiter", in Austria: "Erde"), and

- blue ( yellow in older Swiss days until 1989, light blue in earlier German days) should be the neutral line (" Neutralleiter ", in Germany: "Nullleiter"), and

- brown (sometimes also red, black, or white, or even blue! (or orange, violett, ...)) for the active line (" Polleiter ", "Phase", " Phase L ", in Germany also called: "Aussenleiter")!

see here: http://www.bruggcables.com/domains/b...D_308_S2_d.pdf

From 2001: https://www.ktipp.ch/artikel/d/laien...ht-zu-scheuen/

Further, in Europe the low-voltage socket CEE7/4 ("Schukosteckdose") is symmetric and does not define on which side the active and the neutral line is!

For 3-phased installation see here: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nieders...etz#Farbgebung

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or this

https://plus.google.com/101321717577...ut?gl=de&hl=de

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I rarely notice ceiling lights unless they are really unusual or I hit my head on them. That happened once during a property viewing, there was a hanging lamp in the kitchen, was over a table once upon a time, but the table was no longer there and somehow I managed to walk into the light.

Personally I find many of the new ceiling lights with LED bulbs too bright. Maybe they are okay for outdoor use.