Apple IWork 09

There are lots still in fnac Lausanne (CHF109), plus iLife, family versions of iLife and iWork (CHF139) and the box set of iLife, iWork and Leopard (CHF239).

What's wrong with downloading all this software, instead of paying over the odds in some bricks and mortar store? Not to mention the waste of the packaging.

As I said, "Unless Apple give me a discount for buying online rather than buying a physical copy, I prefer to buy a physical copy.".

So I am not paying over the odds if I buy from a bricks and mortar store. In fact I am saving money, since I don't need to burn a downloaded copy onto CD or DVD, print a label for it, and buy a jewel case for it. None of those items cost a great deal, but the time putting them together does. If I factor in the cost of printer ink to do a fancy colour label, then the cost does become significant.

Looking at my copies of iWork '08 and OS X Tiger, there was no wasted packaging (ignoring shrink wrap). I don't need to print out the Introductory Guide for iWork either.

Plus I believe I can sell a physical retail copy of Apple software* on Ricardo if I no longer need it.

* The licensing conditions do not allow you to sell the copy of OS X which came with your system, but you can sell a copy of OS X which you bought as a standalone retail product.

Here's a link to lots of how-to videos for iWork 09 (and 08).

http://www.apple.com/findouthow/iwork/

Well. Still happily using the trial. Working fine. Still appear to have to export if I want to send documents in an email. ILife just arrived from England. Going to be taking loads of pics tomorrow to use the new IPhoto. Only problem now is I will have to buy a new digital camera to imprint the GPS onto the pics to take full advantage of it.

Each to their own, however your point about burning it to DVD makes no sense to me. This is exactly why I download software, so I don't need to waste time with physical media. If you burn your downloaded software onto CD/DVD, then I agree there is no benefit to downloading, I just don't see the point in doing that.

As for no wasted packaging: when the product is available with no packaging at all, then all other packaging is a waste, shrink wrap or not.

Regarding selling it on, I have no idea about the legality of that, but again, why bother when you don't have to? It's a lot easier just to delete a file.

All of this just seems like a lot of unnecessary hassle to me, but as I say each to their own. My father still wastes entire forests by printing out reams of web pages which he finds interesting, despite my protestations.

Have you heard about backups?

I'll assume that was sarcastic / rhetorical. This question's genuine - are you suggesting applications available online should be backed up to CD / DVD?

Yes, absolutely.

If you are faced with a system disk failure and have to rebuild it, it's far faster to reinstall from CD / DVD than navigate through* all the sites you have downloaded software from and re-download. You cannot guarantee that the software will always be downloadable. Some sites may disappear altogether, others may introduce a charge for what was previously free. Other products may simply be withdrawn. If a future version of the software has minimum requirements which exceed those of the current product, you might not be able to use it. You might simply not like a future version of the software. If I pay for a software product, I want to protect my investment. See 2, 3, 4.

There's also the problem of software keys for products purchased online. I would recommend stashing the key on the same backup CD / DVD as the software product.

* A lot of freeware stuff shifts location over time. It can be time consuming to find its new location.

Interesting stuff, thanks, and so much more constructive than the previous poster's pointless contribution.

As always I guess it boils down to what you use your computer(s) for. As someone who uses my kit to mostly capture, store and playback multimedia (of which the only essentials are some photos), there is no way I would waste time or expense messing around with CD / DVDs for this kind of purpose. Backing up family photos - sure, but that's another thing altogether. Everything else is just backed up to a Drobo. Not failsafe by any means, but good enough to make the risk calculation work for me.

However, I'm sure there are other scenarios / uses where what you describe makes perfect sense, so thanks for the food for thought.

(Going back to the original point, I still wouldn't bother buying iWork 09 over the counter though....

Sorry, couldn't resist )