Has anyone seen anything in the Swiss media about this issue ... or is it even an issue that anyone is thinking about?
Gav
There could be some rich pickings about for well qualified foreigners who stay ... That assumes that a lot of EC-originated expats leave of course.
What expat migration, and where predicted ?
dave
The rules on pensions change at the end of June, I believe.
After that date when you leave the country to go to the EU you won't be able to 'cash in' your pension. You will be able to move it to a pension plan in an EU country though.
At the moment you can take all your pension as 'cash' (minus a small admin percentage) and do with it what you like ... invest it, put it towards property, go to vegas.....etc. etc. Given that you can put quite a lot of your salary into the pension tax-free, lots of high-earning expats have been using it to be tax-efficient.
There's quite a bit of speculation that this will lead to an exodus of well-qualified, high-earning EU people around that time.
Gav
17-Jan-07 SwissInfo:
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what this clearly means is that NZ salaries are really low...I know someone who quit an industry job in NZ to work as a research specialist at the ETH here...i think the research position might be paying more than the industry one in NZ.
I earn over 200 000 chf per year which is 17 000 chf per month. Which is much more than I could earn as a model in NZ!
have just found this forum - it ́s really great - lots of useful help and advice. I ́m wondering if someone would have information on the average salary for a post-doctoral scientist (5 years experience) in the academic world or in an industrial environment.
Thanks!!
Not trying to become too much off-topic, but would you be able to evade this problem by using your pillar 2 savings to buy a primary home, and then sell the real estate when you leave Switzerland?
In academia, between 80k en 95k, but perhaps other postdocs here can share their view too?
I know of post-docs making between about 70k and 100k, although the latter is in Zurich.
Is this considered a good salary How much approx would you take home net?
Thanks in advance for your answers!
What exactly would I have to wear (or not?) to get 17,000fr/mt modelling?
I guess I will have to wax my intim-zone
I wrote up the salary I got as a Post-doc at ETH Zurich a few days ago here:
78k would be the ETH minimum and possibly more in fields with direct industrial application. As with most places expect academia to be about 85% of an industry salary...
As a side note, they (ETH) calculate your salary based on years after completion on your PhD....
Thanks for the link - judging from the article it seems to be an issue for low-paid foreign workers too which is strange. Or maybe there was a just a misunderstanding that they'd lose their pensions totally?
Anyway, will be interesting to see what happens as the deadline draws closer.
Gav
Hello there,
Ive just arrived in Zurich (also from NZ). Im yet to start looking for a job, as Im right into my deutch intensivkurs at the moment.
I wouldnt have a clue what i would earn here. Can anyone assist?
Im an Architectural Project Manager/Coordinator.... There seems to be so much construction work here in Zurich. Surely there is a job for me!
I worked in London for 8 years and want to ensure that I dont get ripped off like i did there. I was stuck in a sponsership UK visa thing for too long. But hey, I had a blast and loved it.
I wonder just how much/little the Swiss would pay me?
Also, are actual qualifications very important to the Swiss? Or experience and know how.
ANY help would be appreciated.
One last thing . . . . Does anyone know of a great bar to watch some rugby?
thanks a million everyone
J
111684.53 chf/year.
dave
hahahaha . . that would be nice Dave
Hallo!
I have a question concerning a post-doc salary at Zürich (ETH) in the institute of chemistry. I obtained my Ph.D. in Germany, working there 4 years. I am (27) not married (I think it's also important). Also, I am not EU-citizen.
How much will be the difference between Brutto and Netto?
How much is the amount of money after
SUVA (accident insurance) -
AHV (Old Age) ALV (unemployment)
ETH Pension
Net - ?
Thank you for your suggestions and comments!
P.S. As far as I know it will be after deductions (5000 CH or 2.985 Euro)
These responses were made on the thread " Postdoc tax question ", but I'm trying to move this discussion back to the relevant thread.
Salaries vary widely between institutions. Sam is at a cantonal university located in Lausanne, whereas you will be at a federal university in Zurich, which gives two reasons why you should expect a higher wage: the two federal universities, EPFL and ETH, generally have far more money than the cantonal universities; and Zurich is a more expensive city to live in, and so salaries are correspondingly higher. Therefore, you should certainly expect more than Sam, but how much more I have no idea - I'm in a similar situation as Sam and get a wage that is also similar.
I have to say that this is not correct. Perhaps in your specific field, but there is no minimum with which an advisor has to pay their post-docs at the ETH. Based on my experience in my department amongst the post-docs I have talked to in my lab and others the average would be about CHF 50,000-60,000, with of course some making higher. (This being on average about CHF 15,000-20,000 more a year than PhDs make annually).
If you have some sort of documentation to back that statement up, I would really like to see it. If it's true, all the post-docs I know are getting short changed.
Again, I've stressed this before in other threads, a post-doc is not an actual job in most scientific fields. It is a post-doc. Academia does generally pay about 85% of industry for certain positions but PhDs and post-docs do not fall under that.
It's also possible that there is some misunderstanding in the terminology. When people in the sciences talk about post-docs or postdoctoral research it does mean that yes they have a PhD but it is still generally a learning experience where you work under a lead scientist and hence has a lower salary then if you went out and got a job. However, most scientists who complete a 2-3 year post-docs are generally paid higher and considered more experienced than someone who obtained their PhD and then went into the job market.