Best Grand Café in Zurich?

What I miss in Zürich, is a nice grand café like they have lots of in Amsterdam. Hopefully, that's just because I haven't found one since I live here.

A place to have a good coffee (not from a push-the-button-machine, but for example from a proper Cimbali machine), where you can sit and relax on a Saturday on Sunday afternoon. Where they have international newspapers and magazines. Where a variety of people come, with a lively, colourful, informal atmopshere.

I asked in Odeon on Limmatquai, where the response was..."ah..a grand café like they have in Paris you mean??". I do not mean a packed Movenpick at Stadelhofen, nor a Lindt+Sprungli coffeeplace, or a Starbucks which seems to attract backpack tourists and teenagers in great numbers and the coffee really isn't good quality. What I'm frankly hoping to find is a Zürich-equivalent to De Jaren in Amsterdam.

My closest find so far, and recommend people to go, would be the Kafischnaps . Nice atmosphere, mix of people, good coffee machine and nice brunch/lunch menu.

Any better ideas for places like this or better in or around Zürich?

Maybe Cafe New Zaeland? I am also still looking to find a good cafe in Zurich. I haven't been there yet but heard it is a nice one!

Maybe check out Café Noir (not sure if they have food but the coffee is great) or Kafi Schofel - food is good here as well atmosphere. There is also a nice outdoor area when the weather permits.

Kafi Dihei on Zurlindenstrasse near Idaplatz isn't 'Gran' but the coffee, food, service & welcome are all top notch. Anglophile staff; slightly hip - due to location rather than design - and always busy. Closed Tuesdays.

For great coffee, cake and ambience try:

http://www.conditorei-cafe-schober.c...estaurant.html

Just across the road also for amazing coffee (even Blue Mountain by the cup) try:

http://www.schwarzenbach.ch/teecafe

I don't know much about Amsterdam Gran Cafes but these two have outstanding coffee, ambience, and little delicious things - sweet and savoury.

Hope it helps...

Im looking for a nice place to go for coffee/snack in Zürich. It has to be somewhat romantic. Any tips?

Try here

Romantic in spades

Homepage http://www.conditorei-cafe-schober.ch/

cakefriends.ch has very good cakes, at least.

But it's usually very crowded.

http://www.lastanza.ch/ in Bleicherweg

Possibly Babu's Coffeehouse, but their baking is much better than their coffee.

Henrici in Niederdorf - when it gets warm you can also sit outside

www.cafe-henrici.ch

Some more ideas, Milchbar - http://www.milchbar.ch/

or perhaps Cafe Grande- http://grande-zurich.ch/