Bread and the whole curtain situation

Okay what is the deal with the bread here?

Fresh bread not too bad - but most of it rock hard.

You could knock a grown man out with one of those batons

.....and the rest...stale...American Sandwich my a*se, I'm used to aisles of bread, in packets - that you can keep for 2-3 days...

I want to make a sandwich damn it!

Of all the things to miss I didn't know Tesco would be top of the list.

Guess I should buy a bread machine.

The curtain situation is far worse - I want to buy a pair - not one, who wants one curtain??? Of REAL curtains, not voiles, so far.....IKEA - is this it? No wonder the whole of Lake Geneva is in that IKEA in Aubonne on a Saturday.

Any idea where to buy curtains from? I bought some in a Migros home shop but they were about a million francs and they only had about 5 miserable transparents pointless 'single' items to choose from.

Ideally an online website?

I think it is possibly cheaper and easier for me to fly home on Easyjet and buy all the curtains for my house from the UK? I might pick up a loaf whilst I'm at it.

Okay grumble over - seriously any ideas for home shops that deliver that would be great :-)

bread and curtains what a great combination

is this a complaint do you think?

Chuckle, if I had to guess I would say you landed in Switzerland about a week ago.

Bread:

You will not find mighty white or mothers pride, it just doesn't exist here. Go to a bakers and buy the bread from there, it's lovely, but your traditional sarny will have to change a bit to accommodate.

Curtains:

We bought ours from IKEA, like the rest of the Swiss and you too probably.

On a patronising note, its a new country, you wouldn't come here if it was the same as back home, that includes the great bits as well as the bad bread related bits.

Once you get past the crispy crust, most breads are soft inside.

You need to keep the loaf of bread including the paperbag it comes in in a slightly perforated plastic bag -- in this way, it will last 3-4 days.

You don't need a bread machine. This recipe has been tried and tested many times with excellent results:

http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Mama-Ds...ad/Detail.aspx

Don't like to knead? Try this one:

http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Peasant...-2/Detail.aspx

I get sandwich bread from Denner, it's usually pretty soft and is called something like Super Sammy and has an American flag type logo on it.

For curtains... many of the homes and apartments have storm shades or shutters, I imagine that's why there is such a small choice of window hangings and what is there tends to be lacy or sheer.

My m-i-l made curtains for my living room, from what I gather, they're not hard to make. Perhaps ya'll could explore the possibility of making some or having them made by a seamstress rather than buying.

The Jumbo off of Route de Meyrin near the airport has a pretty good selection of curtains and the prices are not too bad. You might also try Hornbach which is just past that Ikea in Aubonne. I despise Ikea because whenever I go to someones house I have the habit of scanning the area to spot all of the ikea furnishings. Honestly, don't we all do it?

As far as bread goes, buy a bread box which goes a long ways towards your bread not turning into a brick overnight. Plus the bread is excellent here, so shut up.

What strange twist of fate occurred that made me into a cute little suzy homemaker?

If you want nasty "toast" or sandwich bread - buy a ready sliced one, keep it in the freezer and then slice by slice into the toaster as and when...but really don't do this - go to your local bakery and buy bread to eat on the day...then tomorrow buy another.

The closest thing to "real" bread (in the English sense of the word) is Baeckerland Sandwich bread from Coop.

As for curtains, there is Heytens in Etoy (behind Gemo, next to Hornbach). Very nice, but also a bit pricey.

Good luck integrating!

If you find that your bread has gone hard after a day or two and feel loathe to buy a new loaf, try splashing a little bit of milk or water over it (depending on how crusty it is, you may need to splash more liquid on it) and place it in a hot oven (about 180 degrees) for 10-15 mins. Voila. It's like you've baked the loaf yourself.

Also, just put a newly bought loaf in a plastic bag or bread box. it will keep soft for much longer.

Manor also sell curtains.

Gaaa Vade retro, Satanas!

Lol, only kidding Here, we consider that bread is supposed to have a crust (golden and sweet-smelling, yummm), and thus be crusty on the outside. The inside must be soft and aerated.

That soft bread ( ) you're looking for is called toast, and doesn't deserve the appellation 'bread', as it is a soft mushy thing used to make sandwiches for a picnic. Bread is a whole culture here!

Mmmmm the smell of freshly baked bread early in the morning next to bakeries.... No toast will ever smell this good!

Don't worry, taylors2002, once all the preservatives from that nasty mass produced stuff from blighty are out of your system off you'll calm down and fit right in .

Taylor2002

Hi ,

For the curtain you are in Geneva

why don t you go to France?

Even with the Euros Exchange the price are

good,and as for Sandwich Bread,in France there

was a Sandwich Bread called Harry,

In France you have Fly and Conforama,But, Habitat,and plenty

of home furnishing stores,where you can find Curtains

take care

love the topic title.

bread. try a bakers instead of supermarket. if that doesn't suit you, get a bread machine and bake your own. sounds extreme, but Switzerland forces you to be a bit self-sufficient in some respects.

curtains, god knows. i'm glad i took mine with me!

EDIT: if you like soft squidgy bread, try the Migros one which has 6 baps in a ring. It looks crusty but is very soft. Beware the Coop one that looks the same, that one is hard and nasty.

Anticipating your almost-inevitable followup question in a couple of weeks

or so, of "Why can't I make decent toast?" I'll refer you post-haste to the

Subject Matter Expert.

"I have found in Co-op a sliced loaf that is usable in a ....wait for it ... a toaster."

N.B. Higgybaby just wants to be loved, so don't forget to thank him,

or he'll get all despondent...

Have you ever considered purchasing curtains (not bread ) online? That's typically where I would turn to if I can't find what I need locally.

And oh yes, you can get the bread you're looking for. I know this because I had to to find some during my stay there. As Melusine pointed out, it's called 'toast'.

Denner do some vollkorn sliced bread. Can't remember the name, but it begins with Ö... Don't both with the same brand white bread - it's just paper.

You also have the option of crosing the border to France and buying some of their versions on bread. I love their whole rye bread "segal" the kids love their croissants, we have the best of all worlds here imo.

that's a good reminder

Please. The bread you get from a good bakers is real bread. The cotton wool stuff (texture and taste) is a relatively recent industrial perversion.

But eat within 15 minutes otherwise it really turns into a brick!

If you can't find curtains, pm me, I will make you custom made curtain, in exchange for...I duno, a cool dvd movie, or you can make us dinner, or whatever. YOu can get yourself a neat fabric and matching threat (IKEA is actually the cheapest for fabric, or a store in Geneva right oposite of Manor, at a bustop 22cantons but that store will be 2x as expensive). I agree with the trip to France.